Is the Z NOT a tuner friendly car?

BigT · 04-22-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

More pictures and no discussion.

Don't you have hood dampers to install or something?

theDreamer · 04-22-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigT

More pictures and no discussion.

Don't you have hood dampers to install or something?

1st · 04-22-2013, 11:29 AM

Another regret thread?

Wabbyyy · 04-23-2013, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by thedreamer

lol

Mt Tam I am · 04-22-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigT

Sorry to bring this topic up, but i've been thinking about it a lot lately and its kind of pissing me off. I really love my car and I want it to be the best. BUT, our cars are slow. I'm not talking about stock for stock, as it is a decent contender stock (+oil cooler?), but rather as a performance car. I'm realizing more and more that the Z is more of a GT car than a sports car. Its smooth, looks sexy, and is down right the biggest attention getter on the road, this side of a supercar. But, who wants a stock car?

The manual trans for example, is smooth, but quirky and cannot be shifted fast. And, don't get me started on the clutch hydraulic system. SRM is a joy, but downshifting is only a part of the puzzle. The Auto guys seem to do well, if thats your thing. But, it will never be like a superior twin clutch trans and it will blow if you give it more than NA power.

The VVEL, oh the VVEL. This is the best and worst part of this car. GREAT, if you want to keep a stock car. Real shitty from a tuner stand point. I hope Ecutek holds true to its control. Otherwise, we will all put down less power with FI than the HR motors unless we can figure something out.

I'm just ranting at this point. There is a lot I can say, but it might not be worth it. Some can say to sell the car and get something else, but I cant. There is something about this car. Its such a joy. I fills a great void considering I can't afford a porsche or the like. HOWEVER, it is not a tuner car at all. Evo's, Sti's, and even the BRZ/FRS are leaps and beyonds ahead of the Z in that aspect. I guess, i'm just pissed because I realize that now.

Sorry for the rant.

But, who wants a stock car? Clearly not you. You need a custom car, for which you will pay extra for, but can not afford. Then you rant.

Apoc370z · 04-22-2013, 11:30 AM

****, i thought i bought a sports car..

speedfreek · 04-22-2013, 11:42 AM

A little research before you bought the car would have gone a long way on this front.

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Coon-azz · 04-24-2013, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek

A little research before you bought the car would have gone a long way on this front.

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I'm not hat'n, but I'd have to agree; especially if you have owned other "sports cars."

Haboob · 04-22-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoc370z

****, i thought i bought a sports car..

Yeah, if you're a little old woman.

Nissan misled me greatly.

And OP, dyno numbers not proving anything?

What other kind of proof do you want? Butt-dyno results?

mike12002us · 04-22-2013, 12:00 PM

OP why dont you tell us exactly what your wanting out of the car?? how is it not a tuner? just trying to understand.

Drex · 04-22-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigT

HOWEVER, it is not a tuner car at all. Evo's, Sti's, and even the BRZ/FRS are leaps and beyonds ahead of the Z in that aspect.

what makes evo's, sti's and brz/frs pro-tuner and the z anti-tuner? you went on a whole rant to make this point with nothing to back it up.

manual trans is slow shifting? sounds like user error
auto trans can't take high power and isn't a much more expensive dct? meh
VVEL can't be programed? this is your only point?

BigT · 04-22-2013, 11:59 AM

Wow, I wasn't expecting everyone to get so hurt over my thread. I do own a Z. It is modified. I enjoy modifying it, like any other car I would have owned. This thread did not go in the direction I was intending it to go. I'm sorry for hurting all of your feelings. lol wow

I think i'm going through what everyone else did when they switched to a mustang.

Mitco39 · 04-22-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

Wow, I wasn't expecting everyone to get so hurt over my thread. I do own a Z. It is modified. I enjoy modifying it, like any other car I would have owned. This thread did not go in the direction I was intending it to go. I'm sorry for hurting all of your feelings. lol wow

I think i'm going through what everyone else did when they switched to a mustang.

Fact of it is this thread is full of whats bad about the car without anything to back it up. Not tuner friendly, cant put out the power of a HR because of the VVEL. Everything you said was garbage.

What direction were you intending the thread to go?

That being said there are weak points to the car that have been discussed numerous times. Even if it was a bit of a repost mentioning these in your reasons may have left you with a bit more credibility on the forum.

Haboob · 04-22-2013, 12:03 PM

Same here, I'm just confused. Specifics are needed, because last I checked this car was modifiable, tunable, etc.

Frankly, I'm upset that I had to modify it. Could have saved me some $$ if it was all done from the factory!!

jk

Cmike2780 · 04-22-2013, 12:04 PM

Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck does "tuner friendly" suppose mean? I mean, by most tuners definition, a silly looking Civic is considered the most tuner friendly car. I think the whole gripe here is money. The Z is expensive to mod. By the way, I've heard a few Evo owners who have come to realize that Mitsubishi isn't too forgiving when it comes to aftermarket upgrades and warranty work..

I'm honestly trying to keep an open mind, but I just don't understand this thread. Maybe I'm misreading it? The Z is on par or better with the Evo, Sti and leaps ahead of BRZ/FRS in terms of performance in stock form. Modified, it's about how much money you have in your bank account. As you pointed out with the BRZ/FRS, it's not about hp numbers. So how about track times? If you actually did some home work, you'd see that it's on Par with the Evo & Sti.....and knocks the BRZ/FRS off the track. The only limitation I see is how much you're willing to spend to make it the car you want it to be.

As a side note. You'll likely spend the same amount to get a BRZ/FRS to the same level of performance as a new Z.

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speedfreek A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 1,724 Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp Rep Power: 20	A little research before you bought the car would have gone a long way on this front. ( Click to show/hide ) It is not a (insert exotic here) killer ( Click to show/hide ) Please see GT-R ( Click to show/hide ) It is tuner friendly PapoZalsa and Haboob like this. __________________ Tomei\|Berk\|Takeda\|ZSpeed\|Fortune Auto\|Swift\|Eibach\|SPL\|Carbotech\|Motul\|Powertrix\|Stillen\|Aerojacket\|Z1\|Forgestar\|Enkei\|Project Kics\|Nismo Ti\|Llumar speedfreek's journal

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Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1388	Same here, I'm just confused. Specifics are needed, because last I checked this car was modifiable, tunable, etc. Frankly, I'm upset that I had to modify it. Could have saved me some $$ if it was all done from the factory!! jk SilverValk01 and brianx42 like this.

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 31	Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck does "tuner friendly" suppose mean? I mean, by most tuners definition, a silly looking Civic is considered the most tuner friendly car. I think the whole gripe here is money. The Z is expensive to mod. By the way, I've heard a few Evo owners who have come to realize that Mitsubishi isn't too forgiving when it comes to aftermarket upgrades and warranty work.. I'm honestly trying to keep an open mind, but I just don't understand this thread. Maybe I'm misreading it? The Z is on par or better with the Evo, Sti and leaps ahead of BRZ/FRS in terms of performance in stock form. Modified, it's about how much money you have in your bank account. As you pointed out with the BRZ/FRS, it's not about hp numbers. So how about track times? If you actually did some home work, you'd see that it's on Par with the Evo & Sti.....and knocks the BRZ/FRS off the track. The only limitation I see is how much you're willing to spend to make it the car you want it to be. As a side note. You'll likely spend the same amount to get a BRZ/FRS to the same level of performance as a new Z. ZMan8, VSS370z and Haboob like this. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography] Last edited by Cmike2780; 04-22-2013 at 12:17 PM.

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mike12002us Base Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 42 Posts: 189 Drives: 2010 Sport 370z 6mt Rep Power: 14	OP why dont you tell us exactly what your wanting out of the car?? how is it not a tuner? just trying to understand.

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BigT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 469 Drives: 98 2g DSM Rep Power: 15	Wow, I wasn't expecting everyone to get so hurt over my thread. I do own a Z. It is modified. I enjoy modifying it, like any other car I would have owned. This thread did not go in the direction I was intending it to go. I'm sorry for hurting all of your feelings. lol wow I think i'm going through what everyone else did when they switched to a mustang.

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