Is the Z NOT a tuner friendly car?

Cmike2780

Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck does "tuner friendly" suppose mean? I mean, by most tuners definition, a silly looking Civic is considered the most tuner friendly car. I think the whole gripe here is money. The Z is expensive to mod. By the way, I've heard a few Evo owners who have come to realize that Mitsubishi isn't too forgiving when it comes to aftermarket upgrades and warranty work..

I'm honestly trying to keep an open mind, but I just don't understand this thread. Maybe I'm misreading it? The Z is on par or better with the Evo, Sti and leaps ahead of BRZ/FRS in terms of performance in stock form. Modified, it's about how much money you have in your bank account. As you pointed out with the BRZ/FRS, it's not about hp numbers. So how about track times? If you actually did some home work, you'd see that it's on Par with the Evo & Sti.....and knocks the BRZ/FRS off the track. The only limitation I see is how much you're willing to spend to make it the car you want it to be.

As a side note. You'll likely spend the same amount to get a BRZ/FRS to the same level of performance as a new Z.

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BigT

Thank you for keeping an open mind with my posts. But, do you really think a modded Z is keeping up with modded Evo's and STI's? (honest question)

I wish I could throw in the GTR or Z06 into my conversation, but those cars are out of my league.

GSS138

Here you go,
This is in the red (super advanced group, mostly it's instructors in this group)

See the names Chris, Len, and Martin:
http://westholdtiming.com/pdf_files/...89/Red%202.pdf



This is from this past saturday at Willow Springs International raceway.
Chris drives a ~stock 350(no turbo no supercharger) and Martin a nearly Stock 370. Neither guy has anything besides boltons, 2 ways/cambers, LSD, and RS3's/Nitos. Len has a heavily modified 350 (full race car basically). These guys are competing with every car imaginable: GT3's, Evo's, STI's, Z06's, Lotus, 911 turbos, decked out M3's, you name it. They are pulling times like that with no turbos, no tunes, just good tires and suspensions/LSD's. If you don't know willow these are professional driver times.

source: Track Records | Willow Springs International Raceway | Since 1953

So I ask you, what are you talking about? If you are asking the crowd if a 500 whp evo/sti will beat a 370z in the quarter mile then, yes the 370z is slow and no fun and sucks at racing. But on the track with someone that knows how to drive it's a damn fast car with a few minor upgrades <$5K.