WHY OEM INTAKES and FILTERS ARE BETTER

GTLAW

My background is I.T Engineering! and I look and feel and research everything to death!

I can't get out of my head as to why NISSAN pulled HP number from NISMO and IPL to 350HP 348HP with just high flow CBE and tune.

The intakes did not change!

NISSAN has pulled everything they can out of the 3.7L setup! so why on earth do we think an aftermarket business like Stillen or Injen knows best and is able to make more HP then OEM???

If that is the case why does NISSAN pay there engineers $100 per hour to get as much HP as they car? why not just build a setup like Injen or Stillen?


I understand you want that added HP at 6500K but at WOT with OEM, I don't feel anything more or less with the Injen setup just that the Injen and Stillen are louder!!

I took apart my whole intake setup and after looking at it, it's very good design.

So why is the aftermarket setups making more HP or seem to be?

I will be getting my car dyno at Z-days to see my WHP with stock intakes and F.I CBE with tune.

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FPenvy

this is because aftermarket companies are TRYING to get max performance. Nissan just bumps it a but to make you pay extra money for a nismo or IPL.

aftermarket makes more power because that's the point. free up HP that OEM denies.

look at the GTR. intake, exhaust, and a tune and the thing can jump up 100AWHP just by taking away air restrictions.

you say you research this all to death but i feel like you havent. possibly just stuck on the idea OEM is better? i dont know why but you need to realize it's not

i'm not sure now if you're trolling or just stupid at this point.

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ZMan8

The thing is, I have seen several independent dyno graphs where long tube intakes made power across the entire power band (most of which is higher up like you mentioned, but still making 4-8 whp in the low end) When people do cbe plus lth/tp/hfc, yes the argument can be made that intakes are not needed because they will provide only small gains at that point. By themselves though, I would think adding 20 whp up top, and about 4-8 everywhere else is not too bad.

Also, Your argument is people are wasting money on something that doesn't help the car or hurts it's performance.... To be honest, isn't that what you did by buying an IPL? it's performance advantages are slim over the standard G37 but yet it costs $10,000 more.

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Tazicon

He doesn't own an IPL.

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ZMan8

what's the difference between an IPL and a G37 IPL performance package?

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GTLAW

When I got my 2011 G37, the dealer did not have a black IPL in stock. So for about $6K or so they put together IPL performance pack for me. It was ECM, Eng cover, body, rear package tray, shocks and springs, wheels would have been more.

So they installed all that for at the dealer, I was happy with that as I wanted black on black and did not care for other colors.

Also just got my car service last week and they updated my ECM and TCM for me so I have the most recent software and eng tune!

I do how ever have to get my plugs replaced at 60K and not 100K like the non IPL does.

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gsxr750

Its true that Nissan probably has the best design intake and exhaust combo , as on the Nismo, most of it is a marketing ploy to get you to shell out the extra $8K for the Nismo over the base model.

Nissan could have put the same parts on the base model, then no one buys the Nismo.

Nissan's hands are also tied by the EPA regs. Aftermarket companies offer their exhausts and intakes with the usual disclaimer that they are for off road use only or track use.

So the aftermarket companies can pull a few extra hp with open flow thru systems.

If you have an out of warranty Z or bought a used one out of warranty , you could play around a lot with the exhaust and intake system and not really worry about anything.

But with a new car under warranty, I wouldn't want to run the risk of voiding the warranty or having to store an old exhaust system and intake system , that I would have to reinstall if I have to take the car in for a warranty related issue. Its simply not worth the BS.

FPenvy

i still am in warranty with intake and exhaust. called the local nissan garage since i need a part replaced and they said no problem. warranty still honored.

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GTLAW

How much did it cost you $$$$ to add all this to your 370z?

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FPenvy

haha really? a. i'm not telling you what i paid for parts on a public forum. i know people and got some special pricing. b. it's A LOT less than you think.

and C. you're a dumb troll and dont deserve to know my price list

now CLOSE THREAD/

douche.

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GTLAW

I think the real issue is you are not really getting 324HP.. What is your 0-60 times with that much HP. Also at what RPM are you making all that HP at?

I think if you took off your intakes you lose only about 3HP.

I love to know!

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FPenvy

i have dyno sheets proving my WHP not some internet troll research that is all wrong aka you're retarded logic.

i have one of the top all motor street tire 1/4 mile times on the forum as well so i think my 0-60 is pretty good as well.

now if you're done trolling maybe you can go crawl into a hole and stay out of the big boy talks.

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gsxr750

The best way to get more HP , is to just trade in your car on a higher HP car, like a Vette , Camaro, or Mustang and be done with it !

The best way to spend your money on a new sports car after buying it is really in protecting it.

After buying my Z the first things I did to it was, the clear paint bra, ballistic nylon seat covers, window tint, molded floor mats and replaced the plastic under belly with an aluminum alloy one that allows quick access for oil changes. Total cost was around $1100 and it goes a long way to protecting the car and your investment at time of resale.

That's why it makes more sense to just put the extra cash you have towards GAS and say hell with the street dork mods, most are really useless for a street driven car.

JARblue

I suggest you go premium so you can close this epic failure of a thread yourself...

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FPenvy

no because then he can see all the stuff i'm saying about him in the premium threads

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