SO any updates on the oil overheating problem?

armensti · 07-10-2009, 02:16 AM

ive been so busy with work i havent had the time to search the forum for updates. Has nissan done anything about this? what are our options as of now? and are those options covered by the warranty.

370Z Purist · 07-10-2009, 03:16 AM

It seems more or less that Nissan has gotten an oil cooler made, but it isn't covered under warranty. Other than that, they're just selling it as a performance accessory. Stillen and Central 20 (also Setrab I suppose) have been selling as usual.

280z/300zx · 07-10-2009, 12:09 PM

Also it seems, at least from what I've been reading, that the more miles put on the motor (more broken in) that the less it heats up the oil.

edeeZee · 07-18-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

Also it seems, at least from what I've been reading, that the more miles put on the motor (more broken in) that the less it heats up the oil.

I hope that's true...

Mergnthwirker · 07-10-2009, 12:53 PM

Mostly this has all been a mountain made out a molehill IMHO

I don't expect Nissan to do anything. Best case scenario: they offer an aftermarket kit that can be installed by the dealer and not affect the warranty. Worst case scenario, they do nothing, but deny warranty claims if you install an oil cooler yourself.

Yes the engine runs hot. Some people have been able to invoke the limp mode by getting it REALLY hot. But this seems to be pretty hard to do for most of us. If you regularly get it very hot, install an oil cooler kit. Having your Nissan dealer install the kit may protect your warranty, especially if you can coerce your local dealer into a guarantee in writing.

Hot engines will reduce oil life. If you don't put in an oil cooler, then change your oil more frequently and/or get your oil tested to determine the effects on your specific engine wear, and to see what oil change intervals you should use based on how much life is left in your used oil.

Deal with it people & stop whining, please!

Is it a design flaw? Perhaps, but you'll never get Nissan to admit it. Should a sports car meant to be driven hard not overheat its oil? Yea, probably. But you can take responsibility for the way you drive it, add a kit yourself, and stop whining about it.

I'm taking my own advice.
1. Using the Nissan ester oil (not b/c of the ester, but b/c of the patented DLC additives)
2. Using a K&N or Mobil1 oil filter, adding a little capacity and better filtering
3. Changing the oil more frequently, until I can get a baseline on the oil degradation from an independent lab.
4. When I start tracking the car, I will install an oil cooler (and maybe a differential cooler as well)

And I promise never again to post to a thread about oil temperature

Modshack · 07-10-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

And I promise never again to post to a thread about oil temperature

If we could only get everyone else to agree on this as well...

Lug · 07-10-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

Mostly this has all been a mountain made out a molehill IMHO

I promise never again to post to a thread about oil temperature

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

If we could only get everyone else to agree on this as well...

post bump

FricFrac · 07-10-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mergnthwirker

Mostly this has all been a mountain made out a molehill IMHO

I don't expect Nissan to do anything. Best case scenario: they offer an aftermarket kit that can be installed by the dealer and not affect the warranty. Worst case scenario, they do nothing, but deny warranty claims if you install an oil cooler yourself.

Yes the engine runs hot. Some people have been able to invoke the limp mode by getting it REALLY hot. But this seems to be pretty hard to do for most of us. If you regularly get it very hot, install an oil cooler kit. Having your Nissan dealer install the kit may protect your warranty, especially if you can coerce your local dealer into a guarantee in writing.

Hot engines will reduce oil life. If you don't put in an oil cooler, then change your oil more frequently and/or get your oil tested to determine the effects on your specific engine wear, and to see what oil change intervals you should use based on how much life is left in your used oil.

Deal with it people & stop whining, please!

Is it a design flaw? Perhaps, but you'll never get Nissan to admit it. Should a sports car meant to be driven hard not overheat its oil? Yea, probably. But you can take responsibility for the way you drive it, add a kit yourself, and stop whining about it.

I'm taking my own advice.
1. Using the Nissan ester oil (not b/c of the ester, but b/c of the patented DLC additives)
2. Using a K&N or Mobil1 oil filter, adding a little capacity and better filtering
3. Changing the oil more frequently, until I can get a baseline on the oil degradation from an independent lab.
4. When I start tracking the car, I will install an oil cooler (and maybe a differential cooler as well)

And I promise never again to post to a thread about oil temperature

Most people couldn't give a rip about the oil temp because it doesn't affect them. The issue is Nissan not giving an answer wether an oil cooler will affect the warranty or not. The few people that may have an issue typically aren't adverse to adding an oil cooler other than how it will affect their warranty.

Stop whining - have you visitied the internet yet? I thought that was the purpose for the text based portion.... :P

need4speed · 07-10-2009, 07:49 PM

Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler
From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.

need4speed · 07-10-2009, 07:49 PM

Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler
From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.

armensti · 07-12-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by need4speed

Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler
From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.

so they do have an oil cooler covered by warranty?

Modshack · 07-12-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by armensti

so they do have an oil cooler covered by warranty?

Ha ha! Get it in writing!

armensti · 07-14-2009, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

Ha ha! Get it in writing!

i got excited for a second lol

need4speed · 07-15-2009, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by armensti

so they do have an oil cooler covered by warranty?

yes they did! They are marketing nismo oil and differential coolers.
Each one is $780 option. It "must" installed by the dealer to be covered
under warranty! I'm not sure on labor costs but i would expect around $345.
I know outside the dealership the coolers going for $480 at stillen now.
Bim sure its because now they have to compete with the part now being
Warranteed by nissan.
It just goes to show how much these tuner companies rape u when there's no
Competition.

Modshack · 07-15-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by need4speed

It just goes to show how much these tuner companies rape u when there's no
Competition.

Read that in Car and Driver too?? Your comments make no sense at all. After market coolers are cheaper than the "supposed" Nissan one, but the aftermarket guys are raping us?...Huh?
This makes about as much sense as most of your posts here on other topics..

07-10-2009, 02:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
armensti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 447 Drives: 370Z/Tring/Spt/6MT Rep Power: 17	SO any updates on the oil overheating problem? ive been so busy with work i havent had the time to search the forum for updates. Has nissan done anything about this? what are our options as of now? and are those options covered by the warranty.

07-10-2009, 03:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 20	It seems more or less that Nissan has gotten an oil cooler made, but it isn't covered under warranty. Other than that, they're just selling it as a performance accessory. Stillen and Central 20 (also Setrab I suppose) have been selling as usual. __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

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280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 273	Also it seems, at least from what I've been reading, that the more miles put on the motor (more broken in) that the less it heats up the oil.

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Mergnthwirker Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 243 Drives: '09 370Z PW MT6 S Rep Power: 17	Mostly this has all been a mountain made out a molehill IMHO I don't expect Nissan to do anything. Best case scenario: they offer an aftermarket kit that can be installed by the dealer and not affect the warranty. Worst case scenario, they do nothing, but deny warranty claims if you install an oil cooler yourself. Yes the engine runs hot. Some people have been able to invoke the limp mode by getting it REALLY hot. But this seems to be pretty hard to do for most of us. If you regularly get it very hot, install an oil cooler kit. Having your Nissan dealer install the kit may protect your warranty, especially if you can coerce your local dealer into a guarantee in writing. Hot engines will reduce oil life. If you don't put in an oil cooler, then change your oil more frequently and/or get your oil tested to determine the effects on your specific engine wear, and to see what oil change intervals you should use based on how much life is left in your used oil. Deal with it people & stop whining, please! Is it a design flaw? Perhaps, but you'll never get Nissan to admit it. Should a sports car meant to be driven hard not overheat its oil? Yea, probably. But you can take responsibility for the way you drive it, add a kit yourself, and stop whining about it. I'm taking my own advice. 1. Using the Nissan ester oil (not b/c of the ester, but b/c of the patented DLC additives) 2. Using a K&N or Mobil1 oil filter, adding a little capacity and better filtering 3. Changing the oil more frequently, until I can get a baseline on the oil degradation from an independent lab. 4. When I start tracking the car, I will install an oil cooler (and maybe a differential cooler as well) And I promise never again to post to a thread about oil temperature

07-10-2009, 07:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
need4speed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tx Posts: 199 Drives: 08 altima 3.5se Rep Power: 17	Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.

07-10-2009, 07:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
need4speed Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: tx Posts: 199 Drives: 08 altima 3.5se Rep Power: 17	Horraaaay. All issues now null and void. Nissan now has an optional oil cooler From the dealer at $780. And it is covered under warranty. It was written in car and driver and someone here has the part number for the dealer if he is not aware yet of the new option install.