The next gen Z!

b1adesofcha0s

They could go with a smaller displacement turbo V6.

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FPenvy

3.0 again? haha

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UNKNOWN_370

I thought about that too. a 2.7 wouldn't be feasibly efficient for a v6 which would bring us to the tried and true 3.0 displacement. 3.2 would be the largest they,d be able to go before the engine gets too big.

My vision goes like this...

A well engineered 2.4 i4 can pull 220-250hp NA, while in house turbo plumbing can bring it to 320-370hp stock, with room to expand out to 500bhp fairly inexpensively. On a 3000lb chassis, that would easily compete against a 2015 BRZ turbo, 2014 porsche cayman turbo, and the next iteration of the genesis coupe which I can see being a 380hp N/A engine with a 10 speed auto. lol
Throw in a close ratio much improved 6 speed transmission,8000rpm redline and bring out the first DCT with DRM as the newest high tech installation on the Z and we're good to go.

Lastly, a longer hood with our small engine pushed all the way to the back for better balanced, lower stance, lower roofline, maintain our width. Handling will increase, power will probably stay the same as now, torque will probably increase and we'd probably have a consistent 4.5 second car to 60mph and sub 13 quarters with the weight reduction. maintaining our width, reducing a little weight in the suspension and keeping our current tires widths... We should exceed the current handling statistics by a pretty big margin????

Sounds good to me.

cavemancan

I think your the only one that gets it in my opinion. Smaller displacement forced induction is the key for many reasons.

Engine Ideas:
- BMW still uses an inline 6 turbo making rediculous power and torque (See Series 1 M)...I would suggest Nissan consider a lighter weight inline 6 Turbo. This will not only lower the weight of the car (Perhaps 50 to 100 lbs) but it will fix the biggest issue the Z has...Weight distribution. Does it have to be inline...No but a smaller forced induced 6 would be ideal. Everyone likes big HP numbers but spinning tires does not equal performance. Power to weight ratio does.

- Let's not hate on the idea of a smaller engine (I have to admit I kinda do). Look at it this way...Hyandai did one thing right...It gave 2 options. A 4 cycl and a 6. Nissan should do the same to help bring there MPG numbers up.

Chasis Ideas:
- The technology for affordable light wieght exists. My old car (Mazda Rx8) weighed in north of 2900 lbs and it had 2 more seats, doors, and a bigger trunk (none of which are requirements for the Z). My point is the Z still has weight to shed and using all/partial aluminum frame is feasible. I would say they should focus on making materials in the front lighter.

Drivetrain:
- I wish for a rear mounted tranny like the Vettes and Porsches...mmmm...but reality sucks!

You dont have to do much...smaller dispacement v6 or i6 turbo and more use of Aluminum. Outcome will be a 3000 lbs car with 350 + HP with better handling. You want more torque...well a lighter car will feel like it has a crap tone more torque at the same HP/TQ numbers we have now. Throwing HP and TQ does not work if it is not engineered to fit the chasis.

Now wouldn't the idea of a modern 300Z TT with the specs mentioned above be nice...

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UNKNOWN_370

Spot on. I would go for and prefer the small 6 but if a small 4 can meet the goals. I wont knock it for being a 4. In the end, i just want a better performing easier and cheaper to modify Z. FI, for me is my savior because tuning and modifying is much more cost effective for power gains.

SS_Firehawk

A couple easy way's for them to shave weight... Remove the spare, and make run flats standard, and make the entire frame all aluminum while using steel where absolutely necessary. I don't think Nissan is going to shrink their wheelbase much lower than 100 inches, that's just asking for a twitchy and darty car. Nissan did not necessarily confirm that they were going smaller, but they did say they will not go larger, and intend to reduce the weight. The size of the vehicle is fine, there is plenty of ways to reduce the weight. And for the record, the V6 easily fits, they cram V6's in smaller spots. BTW, some of the costs is because they only build them in Japan.

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FPenvy

waitttttt asecond....are we still talking about cars?

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kenchan

i donno, i'd have to see the final specs and drive it to give you an opinion. if that 4banger turbo can be had reducing overall weight of the car, that can be a good thing. i'd like to keep the car to do at least sub-5.5sec 0-60 and if overall size and weight can be reduced for a tighter handling car, i might actually like it.

i think technology is the key here... this next gen 4 banger could be nothing like the 4bangers we've seen in the past.

SS_Firehawk

Since when did Caymans and BRZ's magically get turbo's when they are brand new with no plans to add them?

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speedfreek

Since 2014...

2014 Porsche Cayman Turbo - Top Speed

BRZ Will Finally Get Factory Turbo Power in 2014 - Autoholics

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theDreamer

They have said well over a year ago they were building a turbo version of the FA20 but currently they were only going to put it in the WRX. The last news I read for an upgraded Subaru 86 car was a higher NA engine from factory.

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UNKNOWN_370

Thanks for handling that.

SS_Firehawk

There is one recurring theme I see here... RUMORS. Why in the blue hell will Porsche put turbo's on their entry level vehicle when they have the 911, 911 turbo, 911 GT2, 911 GT3, 911 GT3 RS. I don't see them breaking their price and performance model when they can up sell them if the customer wants more. With both vehicles, I'm all for seeing them with more, but at this time, I don't think we will see them come from the factory with turbo's for a while.

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JungleZ

Hey guys I was wondering if you guys wanna get some signatures from everyone on this website that regardless of what Nissan does with the next gen z, please take care of their quality control for their paint standards.

edub370

Cayman won't go turbo. Think about it logically guys. They won't want to step on the 911's toes by doing that.

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