Another ticket thread...

[ChrisSlicks]

Originally Posted by 1325

When you signed your name on that line to receive your driver's license, you agreed that you understood all traffic statutes and that you'd abide by them. The common "I-didn't-know-about-that rule" is not an excuse for any traffic violation. Can't tell you how many of those I've heard.

Think about it, God forbid, you come to a stop sign and some child riding a bicycle crosses your path unexpectedly. Thank goodness you were stopped behind the stop bar because otherwise you'd be liable as you were too impatient to stop for merely two seconds.

How's the view from up there?

[forza370z]

Originally Posted by 1325

When you signed your name on that line to receive your driver's license, you agreed that you understood all traffic statutes and that you'd abide by them. The common "I-didn't-know-about-that rule" is not an excuse for any traffic violation. Can't tell you how many of those I've heard.

Think about it, God forbid, you come to a stop sign and some child riding a bicycle crosses your path unexpectedly. Thank goodness you were stopped behind the stop bar because otherwise you'd be liable as you were too impatient to stop for merely two seconds.

I got what you saying and agree with you most part. I am not here denying that I broke the law. However, as I mentioned I checked roads while applying on the brake. I swear there wasn't even a cat around thus I didn't fully stop. And it was like 10mph.

I bring this up is because I don't think a lot(or maybe most) people will fully stop in this particular situation. Is it breaking the law? Yes. But does it judging me as a dangerous driver? I disagree. It's like the speed limit says 55 but how many people actually drive 55 or below on the highway? Should cops give every one who drives 65 a ticket as well?

I think it all depends on the situation. 13 years driving I never had a single car accident and only got 1 speeding ticket, I know what I am doing. In this case, a warning is more suitable...

[luigi90210]

Originally Posted by forza370z

I seriously wonder how many people actually FULLY stop their cars at a stop sign while there is no traffic, roads are all clear AND isn't aware there is a cop nearby look at you like a tiger sees a sheep...

Well, I was the sheep in this case... I did slow down my z to about 10mph but once I saw there were no trafic I hit the gas and go... Should I appeal the ticket?

The officer asked me if I saw the stop sign I told him I did but I didn't see him... Lesson learnd - $150 fine for not seeing a cop

uuuuhhhh everyone i know does

is this even a question?

[ChrisSlicks]

Originally Posted by luigi90210

uuuuhhhh everyone i know does

is this even a question?

You would have to see the intersection in question, the way it is set up (separate right turn lane and all that) you would expect that it be a yield sign as it is in most other parts of the city. There is hardly any traffic, wide open, non-residential area. If anyone runs a stop sign in a residential area I would beat them silly, but this one is a silly place to have one. I think it just catches people off guard.

[MacCool]

Even so, the bottom line is...run a stop sign, risk a ticket. If you break the law knowingly, you can't really be surprised that you'd be fined. Just have to accept the consequences.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by 1325

When you signed your name on that line to receive your driver's license, you agreed that you understood all traffic statutes and that you'd abide by them. The common "I-didn't-know-about-that rule" is not an excuse for any traffic violation. Can't tell you how many of those I've heard.

Think about it, God forbid, you come to a stop sign and some child riding a bicycle crosses your path unexpectedly. Thank goodness you were stopped behind the stop bar because otherwise you'd be liable as you were too impatient to stop for merely two seconds.

You have never broke the law?
In this situation its revenue. Run the record and if its clean and not a completely egregious infraction why not a polite but firm warning.
None of the BS in Germany. Things are more rational and its not a gouge the driver for revenue system. I get flashed by a camera under 15kph over the limit - 10Euros and NO POINTS. Enforcement does not have to be ridiculous. I do not miss this BS in the US at all. Local gov need to ween themselves from this revenue stream and end the quota's we all know exist. Safety my a##.

OP you have EVERY right to fight this and you should. The law is not perfect and you do not deserve 150$ taken from you without a fight if you have a clean record and history of responsible motoring. Fight!

[1325]

I'm just pointing out facts, not trying to stir anything up. As far as revenue goes, at least in my area, a miniscule portion of the citation actually comes back to the issuing agency body. Trust me on this, it certainly doesn't help law enforcement agencies enough to keep them afloat comfortably budget-wise.

I'll be the first one to say it, have I broken the law? Of course! But these are civil infractions--not crimes. OP, elect to show up to the hearing, and the presiding magistrate will likely withhold adjudication (no points, just the fine). Don't waste money on a traffic attorney that will basically do exactly what you would do in your place.

[bdavis89]

I guess if your time spent fighting it is worth less than $150, go for it. IMHO 10mph doesn't even classify as what we call a "rolling stop.". You just got unlucky

[gurneyeagle]

Originally Posted by MacCool

Even so, the bottom line is...run a stop sign, risk a ticket. If you break the law knowingly, you can't really be surprised that you'd be fined. Just have to accept the consequences.

Watch that whole "taking responsibility" idea; not a very popular concept these days.

That's not a shot at the OP because he's accepted the fact he broke the law.

And it's not a hoiler than thou attitude either as some have intimated.

To answer the OP's original question - yes, I fully stop for stop signs. I got pulled over way back when I first started driving and the warning from the cop stuck.

Also, I've seen a child struck on his bicycle by a Suburban-driving soccer mom who rolled through stop signs on a regular basis in my old neighborhood. The cop who responded to the call practically had to put her in the back of his car out of fears that someone was going to beat the sh#t out of her.

[forza370z]

Thanks for the inputs guys! I will try to bring the damage to the minimal as possible. $150 is a big of a deal for me now as I just got laid off. But meanwhile, lesson learned. For people who read this thread, I hope you guys do follow the rules for your own sake as well as the whole community.

[370Z Purist]

I've developed a way to be lazy while driving a manual... I roll through stops at speeds that don't even register on the speedometer. I roll for three seconds, very slowly.

Part of the reason why I do that is because I can stay in gear... but otherwise it's not the brightest decision.

OP since you are laid off, a 150 dollar ticket is worth fighting. Every dollar counts when you don't make money.

[NitrousZ34]

It seems like you are trying to blame the cop for doing his job? The whole point of a STOP sign is to STOP, regardless of where it was placed. If you are so concerned about fighting it because you lost your job, than you should have thought about the consequences before you did it. If you can afford a Nismo 370z, you can afford a $150 ticket. If you do fight it and win, don't let any of us know please. You broke the law so deal with it. I'm sorry but i have no sympathy for you, and I'm sure others feel the same.

[USMCASA]

best thing you can do is to lawyer up and or request a prayer for judgement. its basically admitting guilt but requesting to have the penalty delayed and removed (if you can make it 3 years without another pjc) atleast thats the way it works here in nc. i used mine though for a 91 in a 65mph w/careless & reckless...

[DIGItonium]

Believe it or not the past couple of weeks I got honked for making a complete stop:
1) Before making a right turn on red. Car behind me honks when I made the full stop, and continues honking as I got the car moving.
2) Before making a left turn after oncoming traffic was clear during lunch. Some lady kept tailgating me on the left lane a couple of blocks before I turned. As I proceeded to turn she quickly cuts to the right lane and honks at me.

As easy as it sounds, it's definitely worth making the complete stop. I've had a few close calls. It cracks me up when people either tailgate me or honk at me for making the complete stop.

[DLSTR]

Originally Posted by NitrousZ34

It seems like you are trying to blame the cop for doing his job? The whole point of a STOP sign is to STOP, regardless of where it was placed. If you are so concerned about fighting it because you lost your job, than you should have thought about the consequences before you did it. If you can afford a Nismo 370z, you can afford a $150 ticket. If you do fight it and win, don't let any of us know please. You broke the law so deal with it. I'm sorry but i have no sympathy for you, and I'm sure others feel the same.

Glass houses, and stones, throwing come to mind....
Let us know when you are a Saint, I'll buy the medal and piss on it. Jeez.