Why are reviewers so hard on the z?

w0rM

I'm not sure bias is the right word. We all spent $25k to $45k to buy a car we thought was great. That doesn't make us bias but it pretty clearly demonstrates that there are a lot of car people out there that think these reviewers don't know what they're talking about.

Just because some C+ journalism student gets a job at a car magazine, it doesn't make him an instant expert on cars.

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Joepro

LMAO

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sonic370

Last point from me. jmo those that say this car is not quick or fast
for a six banger are just plain ignorant. As for as handling
if a vette is a 10 than the 370 is an 71/2. And 20 grand less

anthonyy

completely agree. Okay, maybe being bias isn't the best word... how about post-purchase rationalization
But don't get it twisted, I love my Z and the Z's I had before this one.
I just don't like it when there is one neutral or bad review and people freak out. F*** the reviewer, he's probably a C+ journalism student.

UNKNOWN_370

I don't freak out cuz I know the Z and its capability. When I hear negatives from acquaintances reading car mag literature. I can change there mind with offering them 10 minutes in the passenger seat. What pisses me off though is, we're in a country where people instantly believe anything read in a popular magazine without knowledge or testing of a product.
It kills Z sales which can affect us in the future. It's things like this that drop car value, Make Nissan cancel or NOT export the Z for sale in America, or it makes people lose interest in wanting to enter the sports car world in general.

ERZperformance

Even if they dont hate the Z. BUt they'll find things to pick on it.

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JungleZ

Why would they find things to complain about or exaggerate over... These are serious issues with the z in my opinion. 2012 oil cooler is a joke. I have 3100 miles on a 2012 z and just a 50 mile trip on a hot summer day is bringing temps to 230-240 casual driving.. Basically no way is this going to be a car you push without at least 1500-2000 in mods. Already paying 35-40k for the car. It's a niche car, not a smart buy for most people.

I love the car though don't get me wrong, looks are very very important and not many can top the 370z looks.

Cmike2780

If it's not hitting limp mode. It's doing it's job. I had 1 issue with engine oil hitting 'possible' limp mode and that was before I knew to even watch out for it. I had an RX-8 before this car and was holding the revs a little too long between shifts. With Normal driving and proper shifting it's a non issue for 95%-99% of street driving. I've driven a 400 mile trip in 95-100 degree weather with the oil temps sitting around 220-230 degrees. The point everyone is trying to defend is that the Z has issues just like every car. The problem is that this doesn't have stuff like facts and figures to actually back up the claim. They might even base it on percentage, in which case the low volume altogether is going to skew the results. The Z, being a sports car, also tends to be driven a bit more aggressively compared to something a bit more utilatarian. We can't really talk about it, but some people street race these cars or do stupid stuff like neutral drops on the AT. We all know the Z isn't perfect, but articles like this don't help buyers, they misinform without proper research. Most people are stupid when it comes to cars and will believe all this crap without doing their own research either.

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Spikuh

How hot is the temp you are out driving in? I ask because I am driving around 105 degree weather plenty often and I run those temps in my non oil-coolered 2009. You shouldn't be seeing those numbers so if you are, I would suggest having it looked at because that is just weird.

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Joepro

Let me make you guy feel better, not a sports car but just use this as a comparision,
2008-10 honda accords:

rear pads wear out in 10-15k
4 cyl oil consumption issues
vtc actuator issues
key fob module issues
xm receiver issue

06-09 civics:

engine blocks crack
motor mounts are junk
front pads 15-20k(some lower)
wheel bearings
low idle issue
rev hang on si's

These are just a few, very few issues, the lists go on and longerfor some models.
NOTHING is perfect, and stuff breaks or has design flaws, just hte way it is.

even with all the crap I read on 350zs, I bough one, only real issue were the window motors.

I sold my 350z, and I am buying a 370z, but now I know the problems and how to avoid or fix them now.

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sonic370

i don't and won't take much stock in anything these wanna be weekend race car drivers/ hack writers say most of the time......

imho it's how the car preforms over the long haul and how dependable it is during that time NO car is perfect..... but these wanna be Jimmy Johnson's
take these cars out and drive them like they stole em. then another set get in
and do the same thing over and over. i don't care what car you test if you kick it in the xxx enough it will fail.........................

my experience 09 47,000 miles never a failure. no oil burning or over heating....
no rattles car is as tight as the day i bought it with 3 miles on it......

and i redline the gears at least once or twice a week just because i can....

sorry to ramble......................

DCNISMO

American car and bike magazines suck balls, the British ones are so much better and honest. If road and track along with car and driver ever picked the "cheaper" car in a comparison they would never be given a car to drive from BMW, Audi, Honda and the other *** kissers. examples are the GT mustang versus the M3 and the cayman S versus the Z , plus others.

Rockhound

You're right, it's actually not in a grammatical sense; biased is the adjective you're looking for.

/grammar critique


I don't think we're simply biased in thinking that some journalists are over the top in their criticism of the Z. For a while the Inside Line blog had entry after entry on how their long-term Z's interior was insufferably loud. It actually made me think twice about buying the car (prior to a test drive, mind you).


Imagine my surprise in finding that the Z is actually fairly refined for a dedicated performance machine. I even found conflicting reviews where this refinement was pointed out as a positive (such as in the comparison test against the Cayman in the now-defunct online Motive Mag - look up "baby GT-R vs. baby 911" if you want to read a glowing review of the 370). Not to mention performance cars with significantly (and measurably) louder interiors often get a pass as that's just expected of such a machine.

There are quite a few positive Z reviews out there (Car & Driver's first test of the 370Z in the fall of 2008 comes to mind) if you look for them, though. This just seems to be a car that will obviously turn off folks expecting/preferring a hushed, serene and otherwise sterile ride afforded by a sedan or luxury GT coupe (a la the original Lexus SC).


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w0rM

Thank you

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Joepro

I sure if we all looked we can find bad reviews for any car, if we all owned evos we would be dissing the reviews that compain about them.

look how deciving this is compare the actual reviews and overal scores:

Nissan 370Z expert car review verdict - BBC Top Gear

Mitsubishi Evo X expert car review verdict - BBC Top Gear

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