Why are reviewers so hard on the z?

ZMan8 · 09-04-2012, 11:16 AM

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/10-used-cars-to-avoid#9

I'm not sure the z belongs here, one idiot crashes a nismo and we become universally hated. Since when does high oil temps translate to bad used buy due to reliability?:banghead:

There are a lot of other cars I Would put on this list before the z.

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Spikuh · 09-04-2012, 11:37 AM

We have suspension problems?

I'll give them the transmission just because I don't like how it feels, but since when did all the cars start having engine trouble? And how many people have had brake failure going to work?

I feel like they didn't do any research and are straight up misleading which leads me to wonder about the other 9 cars on that list...

shadoquad · 09-04-2012, 11:56 AM

The car has its flaws, it's going on three-four years old, and Nissan more aggressively markets its other vehicles.

The car had oil issues, brake cooling issues, still has the fuel starve issue.

But it is a much more fun car than reviewers would lead you to believe, and so far, it has been 100% reliable for me.

Davey · 09-04-2012, 12:05 PM

Guys, it's no big deal, it's just that the engine and transmission, the drive system, the suspension and the brakes are all prone to failure.

I'm so glad I judge cars by driving them rather than reading whatever garbage someone typed and believing it, or I'd have never had the chance to enjoy a great car like the Z.

ZMan8 · 09-04-2012, 12:13 PM

I'm with You guys, I just hope That if We decide to sell our z , articles like these Don't ruin resale value.

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Cmike2780 · 09-04-2012, 12:16 PM

Wtf are they talking about? Seriously, did Paul Ryan write this?

Spikuh · 09-04-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

The car has its flaws, it's going on three-four years old, and Nissan more aggressively markets its other vehicles.

The car had oil issues, brake cooling issues, still has the fuel starve issue.

But it is a much more fun car than reviewers would lead you to believe, and so far, it has been 100% reliable for me.

Per the article, it is about "when the warranty lapses and mechanical issues arise, all the prestige and performance mean nothing as the car languishes in the shop, racking up costly repair bills. That's exactly what the vehicles on this list will do." which has nothing what so ever to do with track performance.

Not saying that the car is perfect or free of issues (we can all rattle them off faster than our parents birthday's probably), but saying the 370z introduces "a host of problems that didn't exist before, particularly related to the engine and transmission. The drive system, suspension and brakes are also failure-prone." is totally false and an outright lie.

Who gets brake fade driving to work? How many have had suspension failures? What are these engine problems? If they are equating tracking to daily driving, then this is mostly just a load bunk. If not, I would like to see where they got their numbers because all these problems are news to me as it relates to driving to and from work.

Spikuh · 09-04-2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Wtf are they talking about? Seriously, did Paul Ryan write this?

Poor article. It just got

Tazicon · 09-04-2012, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey

I'm so glad I judge cars by driving them rather than reading whatever garbage someone typed and believing it, or I'd have never had the chance to enjoy a great car like the Z.

This! I just drove my Z 800 miles through Northern AZ having a blast on all those winding roads! My favorite was HWY 89A going to and past Jerome! I had no oil issues or brake failure issures. No fuel starvation............ If I was racing the car maybe I would see these issues, I am not, just having fun!

enkei2k · 09-04-2012, 12:55 PM

Only refers to 09-10 models, which is the first years of the redesign. Most, if not all, first new model year cars will have their issues and manufacturers will work them out over time.

This is why I got a 2012 model. Oil cooler, heated mirrors, etc.

ZMan8 · 09-04-2012, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k

Only refers to 09-10 models, which is the first years of the redesign. Most, if not all, first new model year cars will have their issues and manufacturers will work them out over time.

This is why I got a 2012 model. Oil cooler, heated mirrors, etc.

I have heated mirrors on my 2010...

Oil cooler was only addition to 2012.

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Nismo89 · 09-04-2012, 01:17 PM

i say.......... the best review anyone can possbily do is test drive and see for yourself.
people can say whatever. but if you want a car despite certain flaws then GET IT!, never let others influence your decision (aka peer pressure lol)

for me, i didnt care what reviews exc said....... i wanted it. i drove it. i LOVED it. i GOT it!. end of story

Red__Zed · 09-04-2012, 01:32 PM

They are probably referring to oil consumption when they talk engine failures.

The transmission has been a major issue for Nissan for quite a while.

Steering lock issues certainly don't help the reliability ratings either.

I think if you are taking your "which car to buy" advice from MSN, something is wrong, though.

edub370 · 09-04-2012, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

They are probably referring to oil consumption when they talk engine failures.

The transmission has been a major issue for Nissan for quite a while.

Steering lock issues certainly don't help the reliability ratings either.

I think if you are taking your "which car to buy" advice from MSN, something is wrong, though.

I have no idea what you're talking about. i'm only on my second one

but for real... what suspension problems have these cars ever had....

ShinyBlueZ · 09-04-2012, 02:03 PM

I had to take a gigantic poo on the way home today

did the 0-60 in about 4.7 seconds, no transmission issue
redlined every single gear, no oil starvation/overheating
drifted around 3 corners at about 1.00 g, no LSD problem
reversed into my garage at about 35mph, no visibility issues
on the way running into my house a hot chick walking her dog past my house said "wow.. really nice car."

within 6 mins every aspect of the perfect sports car was tested. my huge poo made way for a legitimate 'real world' test of our Z's.. and mine passed with flying colours.

so screw all the haters. Z-fanboy errrrrrday. (gangsta)

09-04-2012, 11:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
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ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 658	I'm with You guys, I just hope That if We decide to sell our z , articles like these Don't ruin resale value. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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Nismo89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Colora, MD Age: 34 Posts: 15,831 Drives: daily Zen and woosah Rep Power: 37386	i say.......... the best review anyone can possbily do is test drive and see for yourself. people can say whatever. but if you want a car despite certain flaws then GET IT!, never let others influence your decision (aka peer pressure lol) for me, i didnt care what reviews exc said....... i wanted it. i drove it. i LOVED it. i GOT it!. end of story __________________ Why yes.. Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs, The Ford Commericals,Deadliest Catch.. is my cousin. Facebook i outta back hand you with my right hand! and call you b*tch!..... and im Left handed!

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3885	The car has its flaws, it's going on three-four years old, and Nissan more aggressively markets its other vehicles. The car had oil issues, brake cooling issues, still has the fuel starve issue. But it is a much more fun car than reviewers would lead you to believe, and so far, it has been 100% reliable for me.

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Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	Guys, it's no big deal, it's just that the engine and transmission, the drive system, the suspension and the brakes are all prone to failure. I'm so glad I judge cars by driving them rather than reading whatever garbage someone typed and believing it, or I'd have never had the chance to enjoy a great car like the Z.

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enkei2k A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 6,365 Drives: '12 G41 B/S M6 Rep Power: 3716	Only refers to 09-10 models, which is the first years of the redesign. Most, if not all, first new model year cars will have their issues and manufacturers will work them out over time. This is why I got a 2012 model. Oil cooler, heated mirrors, etc.

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	They are probably referring to oil consumption when they talk engine failures. The transmission has been a major issue for Nissan for quite a while. Steering lock issues certainly don't help the reliability ratings either. I think if you are taking your "which car to buy" advice from MSN, something is wrong, though.

09-04-2012, 02:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
ShinyBlueZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: In My Z Posts: 462 Drives: Shiniest Bluest Z Rep Power: 13	I had to take a gigantic poo on the way home today did the 0-60 in about 4.7 seconds, no transmission issue redlined every single gear, no oil starvation/overheating drifted around 3 corners at about 1.00 g, no LSD problem reversed into my garage at about 35mph, no visibility issues on the way running into my house a hot chick walking her dog past my house said "wow.. really nice car." within 6 mins every aspect of the perfect sports car was tested. my huge poo made way for a legitimate 'real world' test of our Z's.. and mine passed with flying colours. so screw all the haters. Z-fanboy errrrrrday. (gangsta)