370Z vs GTR whats the pros

boomee

Hey I have seen and talked to a couple of people that have decided to ''downgrade'' from gtrs to 370 Zs whats the benifit of that? From what I gather is just that the Z comes in manual. What are the other reasons I have never driven GTR but like other people who arnt in the know everyone talks about that car as a world beating car so why the change?

PS Im new on this forum if I need to have this in another thread please let me know.

7419sundat

money!

rebe945

boomee

I think that is obvious

Jordo!

Honestly, only the associated costs (e.g., price of payments, insurance, upkeep).

In every other regard except cost (bang for the buck?) the GT-R blows away the Z.

I can't imagine anyone could miss working a clutch pedal so much that they'd ditch the GT-R for a far lesser car.

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It is such a strong feeling I will try and describe what I hear every time this is mentioned. I am not accusing anyone of anything, I just want it put into perspective.

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YES I WILL! To each his own.

If Michael Schumaker drives me around the track I will go faster still. The point is, I am driving, not a car that thinks it knows what I want.

GTR's have had poor sales in a bad economy true. Perhaps they would have sold more had they come with a clutch. One more for sure.

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kenchan

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I make $175k and I was comfortably affording both my GT-R and my 2011 Nissan Maxima. I sold the car because of the reasons I stated in this thread and my original thread. I've always had two cars; one for daily driving and a sports car. Before the GT-R, I had a 2011 E92 M3 Coupe and I sold that because my girlfriend told me we were expecting (my first child).

A few months after my daughter arrived, I started getting the itch again and placed an order for a 2012 E92 M3 Coupe. While waiting for my M3 to be built, I decided that I wanted to try a GT-R, so I cancelled my order and bought a GT-R. After owning (3) M3's before the GT-R, I simply felt that the GT-R was too perfect, too much power for public roads, and not having a manual just made the overall experience less than stimulating.

My reasons for wanting a Nismo Z has nothing to do with finances. I could easily afford a brand new M3 Coupe or any other car in the $75-100k range. However, the only car that peaks my interest, at this point, is the Nismo Z. I was actually going to get the new M5 but after reading that it drives like a luxury car but fast like a super sedan, I was completely turned off. BMW seems to be going 'soft' with the next generation of vehicles. Hopefully, the next M3 stays true to the ///M division's heritage.

Personally, unless you actually have the time to go to the track on a regular basis, which I don't, why own both a GT-R and a Z? You could just daily drive your Z and tune it to your liking. There are a lot of people that make VERY good money and don't drive $100k plus cars.

Streetlife

I understand where your coming from MistaVanquish. I just find it sad when you think your talking to a car guy that respects craftsmanship, R&D, quality, reliability, bloodline & pedigree, interaction with the driver from the car (a true drivers car), and you realize your dealing with someone who is just chasing a price tag. When i first read your post, i had no reason to think it was because of money, my thought is your looking for the best of all worlds (tuning, daily driver, track) nothing wrong with your choice trust me. I am not looking at another weekend toy since i got my 370Z (her name is Vanity).

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NYBladeZ

Manual cars are fun ALL the time, except when you're in traffic but its really not that difficult and no one is having fun in traffic. The GT-R is great but its not a Driver's Car.

Subjectively, I think the GT-R looks like crap, on a weekly basis at our local Glen Clove meet you have your Ferraris, Lambos, and a Lotus and then you typically have 2-4 GT-Rs. Guess what, when it comes to looks the crowd doesn't look twice at the GT-R's. So you pay a premium to be the Exotics' Faster Ugly Step Sister, sorry man doesn't work for me.

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Streetlife

I think the GT-R is gorgeous ( but i like the 370z's design more, it's perfect), and you can't beat the amazing engineering put into it (a twin turbo V6 thats, going up against V10's and a V16 Bugatti Veyron) for under $130,000. I'm not a track guy myself, but for anyone that i know that wants a supercar and they ask for my opinion, i recommend the GT-R, Lamborghini Aventador, or the Porsche GT3 4.0. That's the beauty of having a variety in all product markets though, you have to get out and test each one to find what fits your definition of a complete package.

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boomee

I think there are several people even in these forums that have dont the switch

dP3NGU1N

It seems as though the gtr is a hugely competition focused car. Fastest by any means necessary even if it means it's not as fun to drive. Now I've never driven it nor have I test driven the gtr, however, According to at least one person who's recently made the switch I believe he said the z was a "drivers" car or something. I'm going to have to double check that. Perhaps you would best be served by asking him. One of his reason was the standard transmission and being more connected to the car.

boomee

Whats the guys name ? screenname

280z/300zx

I know 3 different guys in our local Z club that went from a GTR to the 370z. All of them said it was because of the manual transmission. I mean they all raved about the GTR and how good it was. Didn't really mind that the car did a lot of the "driving" for them. It was all about the fact that they couldn't actually drive a manual. Having driven a DCT/PDK Lambo, Audi R8 V10, and Porsche 997 turbo I would have to agree. In a racing situation on a track the DCT/PDK style transmissions are phenomenal and I would chose one in a heart beat. However, for a car that is a daily driver and sees the track on occasion (non-competitive and just for fun) a manual transmission is what I want. The GTR is a beast but on the street most often than not you would leave it in automatic mode which takes away from part of the driving experience.

The other reasoning I've heard from other people who went from faster cars in general to a 370z is that having something with 500+ hp for a daily driver is almost pointless. You almost can't get aggresive with this type of car as you are quickly exceeding any type of speed limit or law. That's not to say the 370z doesn't quickly get you passed the limit but compared to a GTR or Vette Z06 it does take a bit longer. It's the same reason people praise the miata and the new FR-S/BRZ. The limits of the car are so low that you can actually string them out on the street and still be relatively safe doing it.

Personally I think the GTR might have more sales or retain more drivers if they had a manual option. But because numbers in magazines sell cars they stick with the DCT. It's the one reason I won't move to a GTR like I was planning to when they first came out.