370Z vs GTR whats the pros

Mt Tam I am · 06-26-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Honestly, only the associated costs (e.g., price of payments, insurance, upkeep).

In every other regard except cost (bang for the buck?) the GT-R blows away the Z.

I can't imagine anyone could miss working a clutch pedal so much that they'd ditch the GT-R for a far lesser car.

This would be me.

It is such a strong feeling I will try and describe what I hear every time this is mentioned. I am not accusing anyone of anything, I just want it put into perspective.

"Hey in prison you have men that want sex all day long with you. Soon you won't miss a vagina."

YES I WILL! To each his own.

If Michael Schumaker drives me around the track I will go faster still. The point is, I am driving, not a car that thinks it knows what I want.

GTR's have had poor sales in a bad economy true. Perhaps they would have sold more had they come with a clutch. One more for sure.

kenchan · 06-26-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Perhaps they would have sold more had they come with a clutch. two more for sure.

VAUROS · 06-26-2012, 11:15 AM

I make $175k and I was comfortably affording both my GT-R and my 2011 Nissan Maxima. I sold the car because of the reasons I stated in this thread and my original thread. I've always had two cars; one for daily driving and a sports car. Before the GT-R, I had a 2011 E92 M3 Coupe and I sold that because my girlfriend told me we were expecting (my first child).

A few months after my daughter arrived, I started getting the itch again and placed an order for a 2012 E92 M3 Coupe. While waiting for my M3 to be built, I decided that I wanted to try a GT-R, so I cancelled my order and bought a GT-R. After owning (3) M3's before the GT-R, I simply felt that the GT-R was too perfect, too much power for public roads, and not having a manual just made the overall experience less than stimulating.

My reasons for wanting a Nismo Z has nothing to do with finances. I could easily afford a brand new M3 Coupe or any other car in the $75-100k range. However, the only car that peaks my interest, at this point, is the Nismo Z. I was actually going to get the new M5 but after reading that it drives like a luxury car but fast like a super sedan, I was completely turned off. BMW seems to be going 'soft' with the next generation of vehicles. Hopefully, the next M3 stays true to the ///M division's heritage.

Personally, unless you actually have the time to go to the track on a regular basis, which I don't, why own both a GT-R and a Z? You could just daily drive your Z and tune it to your liking. There are a lot of people that make VERY good money and don't drive $100k plus cars.

Streetlife · 06-26-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MistaVanquish

I make $175k and I was comfortably affording both my GT-R and my 2011 Nissan Maxima. I sold the car because of the reasons I stated in this thread and my original thread. I've always had two cars; one for daily driving and a sports car. Before the GT-R, I had a 2011 E92 M3 Coupe and I sold that because my girlfriend told me we were expecting (my first child).

A few months after my daughter arrived, I started getting the itch again and placed an order for a 2012 E92 M3 Coupe. While waiting for my M3 to be built, I decided that I wanted to try a GT-R, so I cancelled my order and bought a GT-R. After owning (3) M3's before the GT-R, I simply felt that the GT-R was too perfect, too much power for public roads, and not having a manual just made the overall experience less than stimulating.

My reasons for wanting a Nismo Z has nothing to do with finances. I could easily afford a brand new M3 Coupe or any other car in the $75-100k range. However, the only car that peaks my interest, at this point, is the Nismo Z. I was actually going to get the new M5 but after reading that it drives like a luxury car but fast like a super sedan, I was completely turned off. BMW seems to be going 'soft' with the next generation of vehicles. Hopefully, the next M3 stays true to the ///M division's heritage.

Personally, unless you actually have the time to go to the track on a regular basis, which I don't, why own both a GT-R and a Z? You could just daily drive your Z and tune it to your liking. There are a lot of people that make VERY good money and don't drive $100k plus cars.

I understand where your coming from MistaVanquish. I just find it sad when you think your talking to a car guy that respects craftsmanship, R&D, quality, reliability, bloodline & pedigree, interaction with the driver from the car (a true drivers car), and you realize your dealing with someone who is just chasing a price tag. When i first read your post, i had no reason to think it was because of money, my thought is your looking for the best of all worlds (tuning, daily driver, track) nothing wrong with your choice trust me. I am not looking at another weekend toy since i got my 370Z (her name is Vanity).

NYBladeZ · 06-26-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

If Michael Schumaker drives me around the track I will go faster still. The point is, I am driving, not a car that thinks it knows what I want.

Manual cars are fun ALL the time, except when you're in traffic but its really not that difficult and no one is having fun in traffic. The GT-R is great but its not a Driver's Car.

Subjectively, I think the GT-R looks like crap, on a weekly basis at our local Glen Clove meet you have your Ferraris, Lambos, and a Lotus and then you typically have 2-4 GT-Rs. Guess what, when it comes to looks the crowd doesn't look twice at the GT-R's. So you pay a premium to be the Exotics' Faster Ugly Step Sister, sorry man doesn't work for me.

Streetlife · 06-26-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

Manual cars are fun ALL the time, except when you're in traffic but its really not that difficult and no one is having fun in traffic. The GT-R is great but its not a Driver's Car.

Subjectively, I think the GT-R looks like crap, on a weekly basis at our local Glen Clove meet you have your Ferraris, Lambos, and a Lotus and then you typically have 2-4 GT-Rs. Guess what, when it comes to looks the crowd doesn't look twice at the GT-R's. So you pay a premium to be the Exotics' Faster Ugly Step Sister, sorry man doesn't work for me.

I think the GT-R is gorgeous ( but i like the 370z's design more, it's perfect), and you can't beat the amazing engineering put into it (a twin turbo V6 thats, going up against V10's and a V16 Bugatti Veyron) for under $130,000. I'm not a track guy myself, but for anyone that i know that wants a supercar and they ask for my opinion, i recommend the GT-R, Lamborghini Aventador, or the Porsche GT3 4.0. That's the beauty of having a variety in all product markets though, you have to get out and test each one to find what fits your definition of a complete package.

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06-26-2012, 11:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
VAUROS Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA-MD Posts: 36 Drives: 2011 Nissan Maxima Rep Power: 15	I make $175k and I was comfortably affording both my GT-R and my 2011 Nissan Maxima. I sold the car because of the reasons I stated in this thread and my original thread. I've always had two cars; one for daily driving and a sports car. Before the GT-R, I had a 2011 E92 M3 Coupe and I sold that because my girlfriend told me we were expecting (my first child). A few months after my daughter arrived, I started getting the itch again and placed an order for a 2012 E92 M3 Coupe. While waiting for my M3 to be built, I decided that I wanted to try a GT-R, so I cancelled my order and bought a GT-R. After owning (3) M3's before the GT-R, I simply felt that the GT-R was too perfect, too much power for public roads, and not having a manual just made the overall experience less than stimulating. My reasons for wanting a Nismo Z has nothing to do with finances. I could easily afford a brand new M3 Coupe or any other car in the $75-100k range. However, the only car that peaks my interest, at this point, is the Nismo Z. I was actually going to get the new M5 but after reading that it drives like a luxury car but fast like a super sedan, I was completely turned off. BMW seems to be going 'soft' with the next generation of vehicles. Hopefully, the next M3 stays true to the ///M division's heritage. Personally, unless you actually have the time to go to the track on a regular basis, which I don't, why own both a GT-R and a Z? You could just daily drive your Z and tune it to your liking. There are a lot of people that make VERY good money and don't drive $100k plus cars.