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Fire 03-16-2012 09:56 PM

China should pay that much if not more. As for real world times Chevy has posted the Nuremberg times and VIR times. Go ahead and compare with others. The VIR times are better than any GTR and the Nuremberg times are very respectable. Anyway I will post times from Watkins Glen when I go for track days. I have to say I like the way the Camaro looks. And as I have said before I will not even look at a Mustang to buy. I just don't like them but everybody has their own opinions. Oh and as for nav. I have a TomTom and don't really need anything else. I can afford the car and will be getting one. I won't have any regrets.

Lemers 03-16-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1604153)
Anyone willing to spend $60k on a car just for that is rich enough that such as I have no business arguing with them.

The point you missed was you can dream up any kind of race tailored to any car to let it win.

Get a short oval track and a go-kart will beat both.

Fire 03-16-2012 10:02 PM

Tru dat I ran my 91 Firebird on a go-cart road course in Solocross. That is where I learned that my stock tires where like rocks, they did make alot of smoke though.:driving:

cossie1600 03-16-2012 10:11 PM

GM is consider a premium brand in China. GM makes a killing off their Chinese division.

m4a1mustang 03-16-2012 10:15 PM

Chinese LOVE Buick.

Lemers 03-16-2012 10:27 PM

GM started selling in china because they were sick of china copying their designs

ImportConvert 03-16-2012 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1604228)
The point you missed was you can dream up any kind of race tailored to any car to let it win.

Get a short oval track and a go-kart will beat both.

You are 100% on target, and this is why fords sra still sells. On flat tracks it does great, so magazines sell fords and people who track them do fine if they stay off rough curbing. In the real world though, over less than perfect roads, not as good.

This is one quibble I also have with my 370. My z06 handled wavy roads and dips much better. That so far is the only complaint I have regarding performance. Poor rebound control.

Fire 03-16-2012 10:36 PM

Import do a search in suspension section. I'm sure there are handling posts there.:ugh2:

m4a1mustang 03-16-2012 10:43 PM

IC... Koni Yellows :tup:

Iceagetlc 03-16-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1603407)
No just riding b!tch in your friend's mustang.

Any seat in a mustang is riding bitch.

As for above, the 2013 GT500 is gonna have one hell of a mark-up it's first year. Especially being the 20th anniversary of SVT.

Lemers 03-16-2012 11:14 PM

If you pay the mark up you aint looking

Iceagetlc 03-16-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1604361)
If you pay the mark up you aint looking

Good point, I've always assumed the people who pay that are in a comfortable enough tax bracket to even worry about it.

ImportConvert 03-16-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1604361)
If you pay the mark up you aint looking

+1

Lemers 03-16-2012 11:53 PM

This summer I was looking at the GT500 here in EL Paso and the dealers were marking them up between $8 and $10k. They wouldn't even negotiate. But I found places near Dallas advertising on the Internet GT500s between invoice and MSRP. I have no problem visiting Dallas for a weekend to save $8k or more.

Lemers 03-16-2012 11:58 PM

Also I'm a member of USAA and they have a pre negotiated price for most cars. So I'll compare Internet prices, usaa prices, and have several dealers bidding against each other. Remember this year the Shelby's are bein built on the same line as the GT. So ford said it would built as many as were ordered even up to 10k.


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