Car wars- Mustang, 370's, Camaros, Challengers...

phelan · 01-03-2012, 06:02 PM

i thought the initial argument was that skid pad and track were different...that article says the skid pad numbers were 0.91g?

m4a1mustang · 01-03-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

i thought the initial argument was that skid pad and track were different...that article says the skid pad numbers were 0.91g?

Unknown says the 2011 GT does .95g on a track and .87g on the street. His .87G claim is one he pulled out of his rear end. Backed into a corner and unable to find the "article" that proves him right, he searches for the lowest number he can and calls it the "median" so as to support his aforementioned bogus claim.

Sounds legit to me!

m4a1mustang · 01-03-2012, 06:09 PM

Hey guys, in this test the 370Z pulls only .94 G on the skidpad: 2010 Ford Mustang vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Comparison Test on Inside Line

So if it really does .99 on a track, and .94 is the median (until I can find a lower skidpad result, of course), then it only does .89 on the street! Sounds good to me.

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-03-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Hey guys, in this test the 370Z pulls only .94 G on the skidpad: 2010 Ford Mustang vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Comparison Test on Inside Line

So if it really does .99 on a track, and .94 is the median (until I can find a lower skidpad result, of course), then it only does .89 on the street! Sounds good to me.

.94g is the non-sport skidpad avg. Non sports have less grip on the skid than the sport. It always has been. I'm pretty sure on the street that number drops some as well. Skidpad tracks vs the street are hardly ever the same. You always get a better result on the skidpad on any car.

m4a1mustang · 01-03-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

.94g is the non-sport skidpad avg. Non sports have less grip on the skid than the sport. It always has been. I'm pretty sure on the street that number drops some as well. Skidpad tracks vs the street are hardly ever the same. You always get a better result on the skidpad on any car.

That .94 is a sport package number, just FYI. Read the article. Look at the pictures of the test car.

SMJane_Again · 01-03-2012, 06:22 PM

I don't post nearly as often as I should on this forum, but that's mostly because I still don't have a Z, so I try to glean as much information as I can from those who do/did own one. I also find the Mustang to be an appealing vehicle, so being able to pick up information on both platforms in one place is pretty sweet. M4A1's been on both sides of the Z/Mustang ownership fence, and he's also been very gracious and objective when discussing the pros/cons of each car over the years. I've been on here since '08 and have seen plenty of back-and-forths over this and similar topics, and ultimately, nobody wins. This thread is further proof of that.

Let's face it- some noob decided to serve up some sh!t and now premium members are sending it back and forth. Troll mission accomplished. Unknown- face it man, you got caught saying something was a fact with no empirical evidence to back up the claim. Whoops. It's cool, I used to do the same thing sometimes when I was backed into a corner. Just admit that it was a bad call borne of stubbornness, and move on. M4- You made your point about the Mustang, and it's too bad it's the same one you've had to make countless times. You know how it works, there'll always be folks who are hot for their car beyond reason, so as one of the resident OG's, make the point and move on. You've always struck me as having very solid, respectable character traits, and pounding on Unknown after he's clearly beaten isn't really in keeping with that is it? Magnanimous in victory, and all that.

Bottom line: What is it gonna take for all of us on this forum to figure out a way to discuss things meaningfully and respectfully, backing up statements with experience or legitimate data along the way?

S.

m4a1mustang · 01-03-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again

I don't post nearly as often as I should on this forum, but that's mostly because I still don't have a Z, so I try to glean as much information as I can from those who do/did own one. I also find the Mustang to be an appealing vehicle, so being able to pick up information on both platforms in one place is pretty sweet. M4A1's been on both sides of the Z/Mustang ownership fence, and he's also been very gracious and objective when discussing the pros/cons of each car over the years. I've been on here since '08 and have seen plenty of back-and-forths over this and similar topics, and ultimately, nobody wins. This thread is further proof of that.

Let's face it- some noob decided to serve up some sh!t and now premium members are sending it back and forth. Troll mission accomplished. Unknown- face it man, you got caught saying something was a fact with no empirical evidence to back up the claim. Whoops. It's cool, I used to do the same thing sometimes when I was backed into a corner. Just admit that it was a bad call borne of stubbornness, and move on. M4- You made your point about the Mustang, and it's too bad it's the same one you've had to make countless times. You know how it works, there'll always be folks who are hot for their car beyond reason, so as one of the resident OG's, make the point and move on. You've always struck me as having very solid, respectable character traits, and pounding on Unknown after he's clearly beaten isn't really in keeping with that is it? Magnanimous in victory, and all that.

Bottom line: What is it gonna take for all of us on this forum to figure out a way to discuss things meaningfully and respectfully, backing up statements with experience or legitimate data along the way?

S.

Thanks for the kind words of support. I get the feeling that you guys know who's right and who's wrong, so I'll just leave it at that. It's just tough when someone is so stubborn and unwilling to admit defeat.

01-03-2012, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 40 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3408	i thought the initial argument was that skid pad and track were different...that article says the skid pad numbers were 0.91g? __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

01-03-2012, 06:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	Hey guys, in this test the 370Z pulls only .94 G on the skidpad: 2010 Ford Mustang vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Comparison Test on Inside Line So if it really does .99 on a track, and .94 is the median (until I can find a lower skidpad result, of course), then it only does .89 on the street! Sounds good to me. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-03-2012, 06:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
SMJane_Again Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: COS, CO Posts: 137 Drives: 18 Golf R Rep Power: 18	I don't post nearly as often as I should on this forum, but that's mostly because I still don't have a Z, so I try to glean as much information as I can from those who do/did own one. I also find the Mustang to be an appealing vehicle, so being able to pick up information on both platforms in one place is pretty sweet. M4A1's been on both sides of the Z/Mustang ownership fence, and he's also been very gracious and objective when discussing the pros/cons of each car over the years. I've been on here since '08 and have seen plenty of back-and-forths over this and similar topics, and ultimately, nobody wins. This thread is further proof of that. Let's face it- some noob decided to serve up some sh!t and now premium members are sending it back and forth. Troll mission accomplished. Unknown- face it man, you got caught saying something was a fact with no empirical evidence to back up the claim. Whoops. It's cool, I used to do the same thing sometimes when I was backed into a corner. Just admit that it was a bad call borne of stubbornness, and move on. M4- You made your point about the Mustang, and it's too bad it's the same one you've had to make countless times. You know how it works, there'll always be folks who are hot for their car beyond reason, so as one of the resident OG's, make the point and move on. You've always struck me as having very solid, respectable character traits, and pounding on Unknown after he's clearly beaten isn't really in keeping with that is it? Magnanimous in victory, and all that. Bottom line: What is it gonna take for all of us on this forum to figure out a way to discuss things meaningfully and respectfully, backing up statements with experience or legitimate data along the way? S. __________________ ~S.M. "Don't look back. Someone might be gaining on you." -Satchel Paige

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