Nissan Ester Oil

Modshack · 11-19-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo
"I'll say it again: ...just make sure you put in the correct W oil for your driving conditions (for most, that would be 5W30), make sure it has API certification, and change it regularly at 3K to 5K mile intervals and you will be fine no matter what you brand or type (non-synthetic, synthetic, or synthetic blend) you choose."

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Originally Posted by Zless@arizona

Anyone who wants to follow this advice, please do so. Please update this site with the results.

Err...That advice would be pretty much what the Owners manual says. I guess, in your world, Nissan is wrong on this?? Perhaps, someday, if and when you ever get a Z, you might want to review the FACTORY manual.

370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 02:38 PM

FricFrac · 11-19-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zless@arizona

Mod: I will resist the temptation to suggest that my posts are "over your head." This site exists to help other Z owners. Your acerbic comments do not support my belief. Maybe I am mistaken. Please copy/paste my comments from the Ranger and Tahoe sites to which you refer, and let the other Z members decide. R/S Greg

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

VCuomo · 11-19-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zless@arizona

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

And just what are your qualifications?

I'll key a public telephone number on this site's PM, you call me, then I'll tell you. Or we can meet face to face. Unless you are a chemist with focus on petroleum refining, you are way out of your league. You want to play hardball? BRING IT!

Well, let's see - you questioned my qualifications, and then I politely asked you for yours and you take offense? And you still haven't stated your qualifications.

And nope, I'm not a chemist with a focus on petroleum refining. But I do have a chemistry and engineering background.

So exactly what hardball do you want to play? Even Nissan does not require the use of synthetic oil - go read the Z's Owner's Manual and see for yourself. Or does Nissan not know what they're doing?

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370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

Well, let's see - you questioned my qualifications, and then I politely asked you for yours and you take offense? And you still haven't stated your qualifications.

And nope, I'm not a chemist with a focus on petroleum refining. But I do have a chemistry and engineering background.

So exactly what hardball do you want to play? Even Nissan does not require the use of synthetic oil - go read the Z's Owner's Manual and see for yourself. Or does Nissan not know what they're doing?

Now

Careful, man. He might be looking for a date!

Modshack · 11-19-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

Thanks Fric!....I think the experienced members here see through this BS. Seems a rash of New members lately who seem to know it all...

+1..

antennahead · 11-19-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

VCuomo · 11-19-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Careful, man. He might be looking for a date!

rcm2525 · 11-20-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

Good for you fric.

370Zsteve · 11-20-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

You might want to follow your own advice on this one. Modshack is a well respected member not just here on this forum but on several other significant car forums. Respect earned by his love of cars, respect of others and his vast knowledge and eagerness to experiement and improve on pretty much every one of the vehicles he's owned (which by the way is more vehicles than you have posts on this site). Don't waste your time if you're just looking for a fight as its unlikely Modshack will stoop to that..... as can be seen in his lack of response to your bitting remarks...

+1 rep

Big Red · 12-29-2009, 07:32 PM

I live in Pennsylvania, and have 4 seasons driving weather. I just put 2,000 miles on my 09 370 Red sport M6. Would it be worth my while to put in Nissan Ester oil? Are Mobil1 or Motul oil compatible ( and cheaper-I can get 5 qts of Mobil1 and their best oil filter for around $25-$30 on sale?) Also, what about oil filters? Is it worth it to use, say A K&N oil filter? Also, how long should I let the hot rod warm up before driving it?

PapoZalsa · 12-29-2009, 08:45 PM

I got 2 free oil change from the Stealership, will see if they use Ester Oil. Which I doubt it...

USNA94 · 12-29-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I got 2 free oil change from the Stealership, will see if they use Ester Oil. Which I doubt it...

When I took my car back to the dealer for it's first free oil change I had to explain to the service agent what the Ester Oil was. She had to call in another agent to ask about it and he said something along the lines "oh, he means synthetic oil"

VCuomo · 12-31-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

I live in Pennsylvania, and have 4 seasons driving weather. I just put 2,000 miles on my 09 370 Red sport M6. Would it be worth my while to put in Nissan Ester oil? Are Mobil1 or Motul oil compatible ( and cheaper-I can get 5 qts of Mobil1 and their best oil filter for around $25-$30 on sale?) Also, what about oil filters? Is it worth it to use, say A K&N oil filter? Also, how long should I let the hot rod warm up before driving it?

Yep, M1 and Motul would be fine - as would a number of other less expensive alternatives (Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, etc.).

There are a number of good oil filters out there too and there are threads here in the forum that discuss this topic, and you might want to read this thread as well: Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters. M1, Wix, Purolator, K&N, among others, seem to all get pretty good reviews around here - I personally use K&N oil filters in my Z and on my two 1970's Corvettes.

As far as the warm up goes - I usually just wait about 30 seconds or so, and then go easy on the revs until the oil temp gauge is well off of the 140 degree mark.

OldGuy · 12-31-2009, 08:57 AM

I have not yet changed the oil in my new 370Z (still under 400 miles and one month). The oil in it at delivery is, I understand, an ester based synthetic. If that is correct, wouldn't it be unwise to replace it with dino oil for the first change or two as some have recommended, because the car has been run for 2 or 3 thousand miles on ester based synthetic? Bottom line: Is the oil at delivery ester based synthetic and if so does that mitigate against a dino oil replacement or two on the way to permanent use of synthetic oils, thereafter?

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Big Red Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: philly Posts: 2 Drives: 09 370z spt red m6 Rep Power: 15	Ester Oil I live in Pennsylvania, and have 4 seasons driving weather. I just put 2,000 miles on my 09 370 Red sport M6. Would it be worth my while to put in Nissan Ester oil? Are Mobil1 or Motul oil compatible ( and cheaper-I can get 5 qts of Mobil1 and their best oil filter for around $25-$30 on sale?) Also, what about oil filters? Is it worth it to use, say A K&N oil filter? Also, how long should I let the hot rod warm up before driving it?

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PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	I got 2 free oil change from the Stealership, will see if they use Ester Oil. Which I doubt it... __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

12-31-2009, 08:57 AM	#180 (permalink)
OldGuy Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greensburg PA Posts: 899 Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7 Rep Power: 16	I have not yet changed the oil in my new 370Z (still under 400 miles and one month). The oil in it at delivery is, I understand, an ester based synthetic. If that is correct, wouldn't it be unwise to replace it with dino oil for the first change or two as some have recommended, because the car has been run for 2 or 3 thousand miles on ester based synthetic? Bottom line: Is the oil at delivery ester based synthetic and if so does that mitigate against a dino oil replacement or two on the way to permanent use of synthetic oils, thereafter?