Nissan Ester Oil

370Zsteve · 11-17-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Don't give him too much credit! It's a photocopy of a re-posted repost. He does have some interest in seeing his Amsoil futures go up though....

j.arnaldo · 11-16-2009, 11:27 AM

The one on sale at PepBoys!

kenchan · 11-17-2009, 01:30 PM

i added about 1/4 quart the other day using some cheezo valvoline dino oil.

j.arnaldo · 11-18-2009, 11:39 AM

You're right VCuomo; as long as you use a good quality oil filter and follow the Manufacturer's instructions on the miles/months time-frame for changing it, all should be O.K. The advantages of the synth' oil are the extended intervals between changes and high-temp' shearing protection. Some people actually prefer regular dino' oil. I try to baby her, but not to extremes; these cars are very reliable, engine-wise.

LiquidZ · 11-19-2009, 07:02 AM

I love oil threads, so very much.

370Zsteve · 11-19-2009, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

I love oil threads, so very much.

rcm2525 · 11-19-2009, 10:40 AM

I love it.

Big Red · 12-29-2009, 07:32 PM

I live in Pennsylvania, and have 4 seasons driving weather. I just put 2,000 miles on my 09 370 Red sport M6. Would it be worth my while to put in Nissan Ester oil? Are Mobil1 or Motul oil compatible ( and cheaper-I can get 5 qts of Mobil1 and their best oil filter for around $25-$30 on sale?) Also, what about oil filters? Is it worth it to use, say A K&N oil filter? Also, how long should I let the hot rod warm up before driving it?

VCuomo · 12-31-2009, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

I live in Pennsylvania, and have 4 seasons driving weather. I just put 2,000 miles on my 09 370 Red sport M6. Would it be worth my while to put in Nissan Ester oil? Are Mobil1 or Motul oil compatible ( and cheaper-I can get 5 qts of Mobil1 and their best oil filter for around $25-$30 on sale?) Also, what about oil filters? Is it worth it to use, say A K&N oil filter? Also, how long should I let the hot rod warm up before driving it?

Yep, M1 and Motul would be fine - as would a number of other less expensive alternatives (Amsoil, Royal Purple, Redline, etc.).

There are a number of good oil filters out there too and there are threads here in the forum that discuss this topic, and you might want to read this thread as well: Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters. M1, Wix, Purolator, K&N, among others, seem to all get pretty good reviews around here - I personally use K&N oil filters in my Z and on my two 1970's Corvettes.

As far as the warm up goes - I usually just wait about 30 seconds or so, and then go easy on the revs until the oil temp gauge is well off of the 140 degree mark.

PapoZalsa · 12-29-2009, 08:45 PM

I got 2 free oil change from the Stealership, will see if they use Ester Oil. Which I doubt it...

USNA94 · 12-29-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

I got 2 free oil change from the Stealership, will see if they use Ester Oil. Which I doubt it...

When I took my car back to the dealer for it's first free oil change I had to explain to the service agent what the Ester Oil was. She had to call in another agent to ask about it and he said something along the lines "oh, he means synthetic oil"

OldGuy · 12-31-2009, 08:57 AM

I have not yet changed the oil in my new 370Z (still under 400 miles and one month). The oil in it at delivery is, I understand, an ester based synthetic. If that is correct, wouldn't it be unwise to replace it with dino oil for the first change or two as some have recommended, because the car has been run for 2 or 3 thousand miles on ester based synthetic? Bottom line: Is the oil at delivery ester based synthetic and if so does that mitigate against a dino oil replacement or two on the way to permanent use of synthetic oils, thereafter?

semtex · 12-31-2009, 09:15 AM

Nissan's Ester Oil is not a synthetic. It is a conventional oil with an ester additive. That being said, nobody is 100% positive if that's what Nissan is actually using as the factory fill. They might be using their regular, non-ester, oil. But either way, it's a conventional oil they're using. My recommendation is to do your first oil change with Nissan's Ester oil at around 1200 miles, as it's still a dino oil. Then switch over to a synthetic (either a group IV with ester additives like Amsoil or a group V, which uses an ester base stock, like Redline) at, say, 5k miles.

370Zsteve · 12-31-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Nissan's Ester Oil is not a synthetic. It is a conventional oil with an ester additive. That being said, nobody is 100% positive if that's what Nissan is actually using as the factory fill. They might be using their regular, non-ester, oil. But either way, it's a conventional oil they're using. My recommendation is to do your first oil change with Nissan's Ester oil at around 1200 miles, as it's still a dino oil. Then switch over to a synthetic (either a group IV with ester additives like Amsoil or a group V, which uses an ester base stock, like Redline) at, say, 5k miles.

Nissan created the oil for this engine. I for one am 100% positive that they use the oil they created for the engine as the factory fill.

semtex · 12-31-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Nissan created the oil for this engine. I for one am 100% positive that they use the oil they created for the engine as the factory fill.

Good for you then.

11-19-2009, 07:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
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12-29-2009, 07:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Big Red Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: philly Posts: 2 Drives: 09 370z spt red m6 Rep Power: 16	Ester Oil I live in Pennsylvania, and have 4 seasons driving weather. I just put 2,000 miles on my 09 370 Red sport M6. Would it be worth my while to put in Nissan Ester oil? Are Mobil1 or Motul oil compatible ( and cheaper-I can get 5 qts of Mobil1 and their best oil filter for around $25-$30 on sale?) Also, what about oil filters? Is it worth it to use, say A K&N oil filter? Also, how long should I let the hot rod warm up before driving it?

12-29-2009, 08:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4500	I got 2 free oil change from the Stealership, will see if they use Ester Oil. Which I doubt it... __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

12-31-2009, 09:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Nissan's Ester Oil is not a synthetic. It is a conventional oil with an ester additive. That being said, nobody is 100% positive if that's what Nissan is actually using as the factory fill. They might be using their regular, non-ester, oil. But either way, it's a conventional oil they're using. My recommendation is to do your first oil change with Nissan's Ester oil at around 1200 miles, as it's still a dino oil. Then switch over to a synthetic (either a group IV with ester additives like Amsoil or a group V, which uses an ester base stock, like Redline) at, say, 5k miles. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

11-16-2009, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	The one on sale at PepBoys!

11-17-2009, 01:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	i added about 1/4 quart the other day using some cheezo valvoline dino oil.

11-18-2009, 11:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	You're right VCuomo; as long as you use a good quality oil filter and follow the Manufacturer's instructions on the miles/months time-frame for changing it, all should be O.K. The advantages of the synth' oil are the extended intervals between changes and high-temp' shearing protection. Some people actually prefer regular dino' oil. I try to baby her, but not to extremes; these cars are very reliable, engine-wise.

11-19-2009, 10:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
rcm2525 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mountains of VA Posts: 133 Drives: 370z NISMO PG #0260 Rep Power: 16	I love it.

12-31-2009, 08:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
OldGuy Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Greensburg PA Posts: 899 Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7 Rep Power: 17	I have not yet changed the oil in my new 370Z (still under 400 miles and one month). The oil in it at delivery is, I understand, an ester based synthetic. If that is correct, wouldn't it be unwise to replace it with dino oil for the first change or two as some have recommended, because the car has been run for 2 or 3 thousand miles on ester based synthetic? Bottom line: Is the oil at delivery ester based synthetic and if so does that mitigate against a dino oil replacement or two on the way to permanent use of synthetic oils, thereafter?