The new Camaros!

Endgame · 03-26-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

As was stated - yes, on the cam swap. And dont forget, some of us like to do our own work

. Its quite easy doing cam-swaps in LSX's - I did my own the first time with help from someone who did it before, and it was so simple.

And I dont disagree on the Z beating the new Camaro at all on the track - there is a reason I bought a new 370Z, versus getting the new Camaro - its too fat! WAY too fat. Ford is getting the new Mustang right. Its like, 400 lbs lighter, and if the new 5.0 comes out, it'll have power too. Pity it'll still be live axle, but oh well - what can you do. At least its living up to its heritage...

BTW, I think the weight numbers are off here - the 1SS weighed around 3900 lbs. Not 3780. Either way, I dont see the new Camaro as much of a "sports" car - more like a hybrid of a Muscle car, with a sports car rear end...

I had a feeling you would respond the way you did to the install of the cam. I have heard it was not too difficult and could be quite fun! And you are correct about the misstated weight. The SS is heavier than the GT500; imagine how heavy the Z28 would be if released... 4000 pounds+ ??

Either way, it was all hype about how the Camaro was going to be able to challenge the 370Z on the track. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I predict the majority of people will stick to what they are used to, aside from those in the minority such as you.

Robert_Nash · 03-26-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame

...it was all hype about how the Camaro was going to be able to challenge the 370Z on the track. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I predict the majority of people will stick to what they are used to, aside from those in the minority such as you.

There is always a price to pay and diminishing returns to deal with as you start adding horsepower...for a vehicle (driveline, brakes, shocks, etc, etc.) to be able to handle 400 or 500 or more horsepower, those things have to be strengthened which often means added weight unless innovative (meaning expensive) materials are used. Individual consumers are free to get 600 RWH from an engine without actually making the car safe to handle it but a manufacturer can't do that and survive.

Then the is the simple fact that the more HP you get from an engine, the more you loose in the driveline.

Obviously, Chevrolet can build a world-class sports car and one need look no further than even the base Corvette, let alone the Z06 and ZR1 (although all versions of the 'Vette could use some real work on the interiors and options) but you can't build a Corvette at a Camaro price point.

If you love Chevrolet and/or GM and/or Camaros, you are probably going to love and support the new Camaro even with its shortcomings...if you aren't in the category, then I doubt the new Camaro is going to be the car you've "got to have".