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Has VDC made you a worse Z driver?

Originally Posted by Zsteve tires spinning or skidding make you slower so something that can keep you from doing that can be of help too. Its all pretty subjective. What

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Old 08-16-2010, 08:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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tires spinning or skidding make you slower so something that can keep you from doing that can be of help too. Its all pretty subjective.
What he said.
I haven't tracked my Z, but I can tell you that on a spirited run in the mountains, the VDC is just enough to actually help you go a little faster if you're a smooth driver to begin with.
If you treat the throttle like an on/off switch, then yes, the VDC will feel abrupt and intrusive as it quickly reduces power and does whatever else it's doing.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What he said.
I haven't tracked my Z, but I can tell you that on a spirited run in the mountains, the VDC is just enough to actually help you go a little faster if you're a smooth driver to begin with.
If you treat the throttle like an on/off switch, then yes, the VDC will feel abrupt and intrusive as it quickly reduces power and does whatever else it's doing.
sorry, but I can't see any way it can make you faster, only keep you from having an off road excursion. It cuts power, which might keep you on the road but won't increase your speed.

I'm not saying its a bad thing or anything, I just don't think it can make you go faster, no matter how smooth you are. If you are smooth, it shouldn't ever come on.
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sorry, but I can't see any way it can make you faster, only keep you from having an off road excursion. It cuts power, which might keep you on the road but won't increase your speed.

I'm not saying its a bad thing or anything, I just don't think it can make you go faster, no matter how smooth you are. If you are smooth, it shouldn't ever come on.
so the question is...which causes more loss of time, VDCkicking in for a sec or having your wheels spin?
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so the question is...which causes more loss of time, VDCkicking in for a sec or having your wheels spin?
I think VDC kicking in. While I said I leave it on for street driving, I actually do turn it off when trying to turn across traffic at busy intersections, as there is nothing worse than the car just bogging down when someone is coming right at you. I turn it back on afterwards though. While I don't ever plan to be in a situation where it is needed and don't drive that way on public roads, its always a nice safety net.
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I think VDC kicking in. While I said I leave it on for street driving, I actually do turn it off when trying to turn across traffic at busy intersections, as there is nothing worse than the car just bogging down when someone is coming right at you. I turn it back on afterwards though. While I don't ever plan to be in a situation where it is needed and don't drive that way on public roads, its always a nice safety net.
with tires spinning your not going forward but with VDC on you still move forward so it may equal out. So its a matter of what degree you are spinning the tires or how much the VDC stays on.
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with tires spinning your not going forward but with VDC on you still move forward so it may equal out. So its a matter of what degree you are spinning the tires or how much the VDC stays on.
uhhhhh......what? have you ever experienced wheel spin? It's not like you magically stop moving. With comments like this and threads titled "How do I park, how do I shift, will i crash if I turn off the VDC" I'm starting to get the impression that a lot of Z drivers have no idea how to drive.
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I can't believe this silly thread still exists.

With VDC, you don't have to use time to blip the throttle. Of course it makes you faster. Duh. Now
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uhhhhh......what? have you ever experienced wheel spin? It's not like you magically stop moving. With comments like this and threads titled "How do I park, how do I shift, will i crash if I turn off the VDC" I'm starting to get the impression that a lot of Z drivers have no idea how to drive.
He means when your tires are spinning you arent going forward as fast as the vdc kicking in for a second and making the car regain grip.

since spinning tires = loss of grip
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sorry, but I can't see any way it can make you faster, only keep you from having an off road excursion. It cuts power, which might keep you on the road but won't increase your speed.

I'm not saying its a bad thing or anything, I just don't think it can make you go faster, no matter how smooth you are. If you are smooth, it shouldn't ever come on.
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so the question is...which causes more loss of time, VDCkicking in for a sec or having your wheels spin?
Causing the rear wheels to spin by applying a "little bit" more power than there's grip for does not mean an off road or track excursion is imminent. However, that little bit of slip can slow you down and I believe it's more than the subtle adjustments I've felt the VDC making in these circumstances.
I realize that our cars are nowhere near as sophisticated as a Formula 1 car, but did traction control make those cars slower? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no.

I can definitely see where the VDC would, by its design/programming intended for a street driven car, be too intrusive on the track.


But to answer the original question...
No, it does not make you a worse driver if you don't allow yourself to go numb and tune out what the car is telling you
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But to answer the original question...
No, it does not make you a worse driver if you don't allow yourself to go numb and tune out what the car is telling you
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