370Z comes with full synthetic?

kdo2milger · 02-13-2009, 07:47 AM

I will use only Royal Purple!

My older brother turned me on to it years ago...

In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others.

I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

semtex · 02-13-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

I will use only Royal Purple!

My older brother turned me on to it years ago...

In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others.

I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

Favorite Synthetic Oil

kdo2milger · 02-13-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

Favorite Synthetic Oil

imo i dont believe so...i change my oil evey three to five thousand miles anyway so it would be hard to say. Their website says you can go higher between changes though.

i started using it immidiately after i picked up my wifes explorer sport trac back in dec 06 and when i change the oil every 3 grand or so, it comes out clear caramel colored, its a clean burning oil for sure, but to say it burns faster, well i dont think so, because their website says you can run longer durations between oil changes suggesting it will last longer rather than burn faster.

Phil Wallace · 02-13-2009, 09:09 AM

OK, I have gotten some information from Nissans Technical Training center.
For those of you who prefer whatever oil you choose, thats your choice.

Nissan recommends ESTER oil in the 370Z and the Maxima for the following reasons.
Ester oil bonds better than conventional oil to certain metals.
Ester oil is recommended for the 370Z per the owners manual because it will reduce the noise in the Vvel valve setup found in the Maxima and the 370Z.

Its your vehicle, use what you want, If a common complaint occurs on this site in relation to excessive valvetrain noise, please check to see if you are using what Nissan's Engineering and design team recommends or if you are using your own personal preferrence....

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

imo i dont believe so...i change my oil evey three to five thousand miles anyway so it would be hard to say. Their website says you can go higher between changes though.

i started using it immidiately after i picked up my wifes explorer sport trac back in dec 06 and when i change the oil every 3 grand or so, it comes out clear caramel colored, its a clean burning oil for sure, but to say it burns faster, well i dont think so, because their website says you can run longer durations between oil changes suggesting it will last longer rather than burn faster.

Have you done any UOA's of your oil? If not then please don't say things like it hasn't. Many have and have seen high wear numbers compared to using other oils.

Clear is a bad thing also, that means it's not cleaning. It needs to come out dark so it's cleaning the engine of the deposits.

kdo2milger · 02-14-2009, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Have you done any UOA's of your oil? If not then please don't say things like it hasn't. Many have and have seen high wear numbers compared to using other oils.

Clear is a bad thing also, that means it's not cleaning. It needs to come out dark so it's cleaning the engine of the deposits.

im not here to promote my personal brand, or perform any official oil test as on horsepower tv, i was just letting everyone know that i notice a slight improvement in performance in my mach1, hard to say in my wifes truck though because i canged it to rp as soon as i got it home from the dealership. her engine is the 3 valve 4.6 where as mine is the high performance 4 valve 4.6.

also the sludge thing (darker oil) should only be happening in cars with higher mileage on them. the mach1 oil does come out darker like you state, but as of yet its still clear in the truck because it has low mileage.

kdo2milger · 02-14-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Have you done any UOA's of your oil?

also if you look around bit on the rp website you will see a link to the performance section and under that section there are video links to various independants that have done dynos to prove that it does increase hp and tq.

NIZMOZ · 02-14-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

also if you look around bit on the rp website you will see a link to the performance section and under that section there are video links to various independants that have done dynos to prove that it does increase hp and tq.

Of course they are going to show it on that website because it's their product. There were dynos showing the twister or whatever in the intake gains power when in fact it makes you lose power.

RP again shown in 1000s of tests UOAs, etc on BITOG does not gain hp, or perform better than other synthetic oils. It causes more wear than others.

Also it is a known fact if the oil is coming out clean after many miles, means it's not doing it's job cleaning the particles, sludge etc out of the engine. Thinking because it's clear it's doing a better job is incorrect.

kdo2milger · 02-15-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Of course they are going to show it on that website because it's their product. There were dynos showing the twister or whatever in the intake gains power when in fact it makes you lose power.

RP again shown in 1000s of tests UOAs, etc on BITOG does not gain hp, or perform better than other synthetic oils. It causes more wear than others.

Also it is a known fact if the oil is coming out clean after many miles, means it's not doing it's job cleaning the particles, sludge etc out of the engine. Thinking because it's clear it's doing a better job is incorrect.

i follow what your saying nizmoz, it is their website and i would do the same if it were my company, its "called" promoting your product with substantiated efforts which are done by non affiliated sources.

all im saying is that rp made a believer out of me, and i will continue to use it. and will use it along with k&n oil filters in the z too.

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

Favorite Synthetic Oil

Very true.

Bob is the oil guy forums has more info and all the tests that show it does. It isn't recommended and over hyped.

It is a gimmick like that blade you put in your intakes to swirl the air that never really helped.

dad · 02-13-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

it noticably increased a bit.

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Haha...butt dynos. Sorry it will not increase your TQ. Maybe if you haven't done a oil change in 20k of miles.

I have to disagree with you! Highly possible! Different cars, different engines, different brands of oil! If not for those factors, we wouldn't have different results!
kdo2milger, last four words are what counts, in making the difference!

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

I have to disagree with you! Highly possible! Different cars, different engines, different brands of oil! If not for those factors, we wouldn't have different results!
kdo2milger, last four words are what counts, in making the difference!

dad · 02-13-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I take it, that means that you agree with me, and you know I'm right!

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

I will use only Royal Purple!

My older brother turned me on to it years ago...

In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others.

I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

Haha...butt dynos. Sorry it will not increase your TQ. Maybe if you haven't done a oil change in 20k of miles.

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02-13-2009, 07:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
kdo2milger OG Priesthood Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 17,859 Drives: NISMO T Rep Power: 59	I will use only Royal Purple! My older brother turned me on to it years ago... In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others. I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

02-13-2009, 09:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
Phil Wallace Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 34 Drives: 1991 300ZX TT Rep Power: 219	OK, I have gotten some information from Nissans Technical Training center. For those of you who prefer whatever oil you choose, thats your choice. Nissan recommends ESTER oil in the 370Z and the Maxima for the following reasons. Ester oil bonds better than conventional oil to certain metals. Ester oil is recommended for the 370Z per the owners manual because it will reduce the noise in the Vvel valve setup found in the Maxima and the 370Z. Its your vehicle, use what you want, If a common complaint occurs on this site in relation to excessive valvetrain noise, please check to see if you are using what Nissan's Engineering and design team recommends or if you are using your own personal preferrence....