370z Vs. '10 GT

Paradox · 02-05-2009, 07:29 AM

You're on a 370Z forum, pretty sure a majority of the members here would choose a 370Z...

Lug · 02-05-2009, 07:50 AM

I'm quite impressed with the handling updates:

0-60 mph 4.9 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)
You just don't see braking and Lateral acceleration numbers this good out of the pony in GT form. Good job, Ford.

Skaterbasist · 02-06-2009, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I'm quite impressed with the handling updates:

0-60 mph 4.9 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)
You just don't see braking and Lateral acceleration numbers this good out of the pony in GT form. Good job, Ford.

Lateral acceleration & braking distances aren't really that indicative of overall handling.

I could throw some sticky tires on my brothers 2008 Mustang GT and a BBK and it would have some impressive magazine statistics. But the drive itself is still very dull and disconnected to the driver. Those live axles just aren't meant for anything else than drag racing.

Minicobra1 · 02-06-2009, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaterbasist

Lateral acceleration & braking distances aren't really that indicative of overall handling.

I could throw some sticky tires on my brothers 2008 Mustang GT and a BBK and it would have some impressive magazine statistics. But the drive itself is still very dull and disconnected to the driver. Those live axles just aren't meant for anything else than drag racing.

I have to agree to a certain extent, having owned 4 mustangs in the past, they are truly more geared for the 1/4 mile. With the right suspension mods they are pretty decent track performers, but on the street, I'll take the 370z's independent rear suspension any day over the live axel. Mustangs are great, because for a small amount of money you can squeeze a lot of power out of them. There great for tight cornering, but wait till you take the first long freeway sweeper and hit some uneven road, that can be real unsettling. I must say though that one of my favorite cars was a 1992 LX 5.0, swaped out the gears in the back, Eibach springs, Koni adjustables, put on a catback and a $3500 vortech supercharger. Total investment $15K ! and it would run mid to high 12's all day long. I beat the crap out of the car, held up like a dream, was a real sleeper on the street. Comparing the 370Z to the new Mustang, I wouldn't even consider the new Mustang until Ford can come up with a decent IRS, then maybe I'll take it for a test drive. 370z FTW!

Lug · 02-06-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaterbasist

Lateral acceleration & braking distances aren't really that indicative of overall handling.

I could throw some sticky tires on my brothers 2008 Mustang GT and a BBK and it would have some impressive magazine statistics. But the drive itself is still very dull and disconnected to the driver. Those live axles just aren't meant for anything else than drag racing.

....english teacher mode on....

It is indicative but not conclusive. A combination of slalom and lateral acceleration is the best way to tell without true comparative lap times. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any slalom or lap time numbers yet.

Skaterbasist · 02-06-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

I have to agree to a certain extent, having owned 4 mustangs in the past, they are truly more geared for the 1/4 mile. With the right suspension mods they are pretty decent track performers, but on the street, I'll take the 370z's independent rear suspension any day over the live axel. Mustangs are great, because for a small amount of money you can squeeze a lot of power out of them. There great for tight cornering, but wait till you take the first long freeway sweeper and hit some uneven road, that can be real unsettling. I must say though that one of my favorite cars was a 1992 LX 5.0, swaped out the gears in the back, Eibach springs, Koni adjustables, put on a catback and a $3500 vortech supercharger. Total investment $15K ! and it would run mid to high 12's all day long. I beat the crap out of the car, held up like a dream, was a real sleeper on the street. Comparing the 370Z to the new Mustang, I wouldn't even consider the new Mustang until Ford can come up with a decent IRS, then maybe I'll take it for a test drive. 370z FTW!

Completely agree on the fact that any mustang modifications are really good bang for the buck, especially in comparison to our VQ modifications.

Suspension wise its far behind a G/Z. But it can still be made to handle relatively well with the right modifications.

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Originally Posted by Lug

....english teacher mode on....

It is indicative but not conclusive. A combination of slalom and lateral acceleration is the best way to tell without true comparative lap times. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have any slalom or lap time numbers yet.

Yeah, it is indicative to a certain extent. A large part of the automotive "enthusiast" community look at 0-60 numbers, lateral G's, and braking distances and conclude this car must be as great of a performer as another car with similar statistics. That's the only part I cannot stand.

3SeventyZ · 02-06-2009, 04:38 PM

Interesting how a thread about the new mustang now turned into a nismo owner trying to convince himself his car is the best thing since sliced bread.

NIZMOZ · 02-05-2009, 08:22 AM

What's funny is even the 07+ 350Z can beat the GT Mustang.

WUKILLABEEZ78 · 02-05-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

What's funny is even the 07+ 350Z can beat the GT Mustang.

0-60 mph 4.9 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)

Those are great times Motor Trend got for the new mustang. The only 350Z that Motor Trend has tested that got similar times was the Nismo 350Z which ran 0-60 also in 4.9 seconds and the 1/4 mile at 13.5 at 103.9. I'm sure that some non-Nismo 07 and 08 Z's can probably equal some of these numbers but it would take a GREAT driver and some mods (bolt-ons would be sufficient). Motor Trend got 4.7 0-60 run for the 370Z and the 1/4 mile at 13.3 at 105.7. So comparing stock to stock the 370Z is faster (and handles better with it's tested 0.99 lateral acceleration) but this doesn't mean much since you can spend a couple of hundred dollars on the Mustang and make it way faster than the Z.

NIZMOZ · 02-05-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WUKILLABEEZ78

0-60 mph 4.9 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)

Those are great times Motor Trend got for the new mustang. The only 350Z that Motor Trend has tested that got similar times was the Nismo 350Z which ran 0-60 also in 4.9 seconds and the 1/4 mile at 13.5 at 103.9. I'm sure that some non-Nismo 07 and 08 Z's can probably equal some of these numbers but it would take a GREAT driver and some mods (bolt-ons would be sufficient). Motor Trend got 4.7 0-60 run for the 370Z and the 1/4 mile at 13.3 at 105.7. So comparing stock to stock the 370Z is faster (and handles better with it's tested 0.99 lateral acceleration) but this doesn't mean much since you can spend a couple of hundred dollars on the Mustang and make it way faster than the Z.

I won't get into it again, but the NISMO is heavier, also has downforce parts on the bodykit which slow it's 1/4 times down. The 350Z's have seen 13.1s at 107 mph stock.

Stock for Stock the 350Z and the 370z are pretty much dead even in a race. It will all depend on the driver. 370Z handles better than a normal 350Z not a NISMO 350Z. But once the NISMO 370Z comes out, then it will out handle all of them.

klubbheads · 02-05-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I won't get into it again, but the NISMO is heavier, also has downforce parts on the bodykit which slow it's 1/4 times down. The 350Z's have seen 13.1s at 107 mph stock.

Stock for Stock the 350Z and the 370z are pretty much dead even in a race. It will all depend on the driver. 370Z handles better than a normal 350Z not a NISMO 350Z. But once the NISMO 370Z comes out, then it will out handle all of them.

350z and 370z can not have the same acceleration.
The only way that is possible if the 350z has 40k miles on it and the 370z is brand new. Most motors get much quicker as the mileage increases and that is the reason u see those numbers for the 350z HR motor. 370z will be a much quicker car overall. There are cars that shave over 0.6 seconds off their 1/4 mile time by the time they get 40k miles on them.

NIZMOZ · 02-05-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by klubbheads

350z and 370z can not have the same acceleration.
The only way that is possible if the 350z has 40k miles on it and the 370z is brand new. Most motors get much quicker as the mileage increases and that is the reason u see those numbers for the 350z HR motor. 370z will be a much quicker car overall. There are cars that shave over 0.6 seconds off their 1/4 mile time by the time they get 40k miles on them.

Umm like I said people are running faster times over the 370z as of this moment. The 370z weighs MORE than the 350z also due to all the safety extras they had to add.

A few of those low times were done on less than 500 miles on the HR motor.

Again, how can it be "much quicker" when all the 370z could do was match the NISMO 350Z 1/4 time and 1.5 mph faster (when the NISMO is slower in the 1/4 because of the down force the body kit produces)? That is not quicker that is the same. Put a HR 350Z vs a 370Z against each other and its going to be a dead heat.

I know where this is headed so I am ending it here.

Endgame · 02-05-2009, 12:28 PM

Only Stang I will ever get again is a SVT product; in this case, the GT500. It does look very nice however.

That said, no contest.... Z.

elmz · 02-05-2009, 03:26 PM

I agree, the new Mustang looks good, and the numbers are impressive considering the price. I'm curious what the slalom and braking numbers are.

LiquidZ · 02-05-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

I agree, the new Mustang looks good, and the numbers are impressive considering the price. I'm curious what the slalom and braking numbers are.

Braking is 108 ft. A lot better than I expected to be honest.

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Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 20	I'm quite impressed with the handling updates: 0-60 mph 4.9 sec Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg) You just don't see braking and Lateral acceleration numbers this good out of the pony in GT form. Good job, Ford.

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elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 18	I agree, the new Mustang looks good, and the numbers are impressive considering the price. I'm curious what the slalom and braking numbers are.