Doug DeMuro Reviews the 370Z Nismo...and it doesn't go too well

hotprops · 06-01-2019, 10:33 AM

I have been playing with cars for over 50 years and have had so many cars i cant remember them all, could be early onset alz as i am 66 years on this planet. what i do know is the 370z i have had for a year and a half ,is one of the most fun ,basic ,no bs machines i have had the pleasure of owning . and none of the bs that follows the ownership of units like carrera,california,cambacorsa ,ect.getting raped after purchas is not my idea of fun .in all my years this the first i have herd of doug and after scanning his vid i find him to be a boring ,***. why does a car have to change every few years to be considered good? tweaking it over 10 years has created a fine machine capable of embarrassing many on a tight road course.f..k doug

MZ DAIZY · 06-01-2019, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hotprops

I have been playing with cars for over 50 years and have had so many cars i cant remember them all, could be early onset alz as i am 66 years on this planet. what i do know is the 370z i have had for a year and a half ,is one of the most fun ,basic ,no bs machines i have had the pleasure of owning . and none of the bs that follows the ownership of units like carrera,california,cambacorsa ,ect.getting raped after purchas is not my idea of fun .in all my years this the first i have herd of doug and after scanning his vid i find him to be a boring ,***. why does a car have to change every few years to be considered good? tweaking it over 10 years has created a fine machine capable of embarrassing many on a tight road course.f..k doug

Yea, but, but, but... the cup holders!!

Threadlocker · 06-01-2019, 07:12 PM

Doug's review is more than fair, I actually thought he'd score it a lot worse, since the Z has fallen so far behind modern competition. He knocks on it for how little features it has, but if he consistently does this with all the vehicles he reviews, it'd be stupid if he gave it more points for "being good for the time". He never pretends to be an expert, but he certainly has experience reviewing vehicles.

It's amazing so many of you trash him while also saying "i'll stick to people who know what they're talking about" - why? If anybody listened to experts, none of us would own Z cars.

sizziano · 06-02-2019, 08:08 AM

This thread went downhill fast

Rusty · 06-02-2019, 12:09 PM

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This thread went downhill fast

This thread needs a new direction.

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vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 02:02 PM

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This thread went downhill fast

Ok, back to bashing douche demuro.

For those that gripe about the Z that bought earlier models, ok I can understand. But for those that recently bought, you knew what you were buying and still gripe about being outdated? Why did you buy?

ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 02:30 PM

I didn't read this entire thread, but did anyone catch the part where he said there was a "subwoofer where the spare should be, but there's no spare"?

He didn't even bother to look a little deeper/better to see that the sub is mounted to the spare.

Things like this and all the other stuff mentioned in this thread is precisely why I never pay attention to reviewers no matter what it is.

If I want to read reviews on something, I dig up random forums and sites online where actual people like you and me post up our actual experiences with the product. That's where you get your most accurate reviews, not some a$$ clown who thinks he knows what he's talking about and makes a living off of it.

NISMO IX · 06-02-2019, 03:18 PM

You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car.

There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review.

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car.

There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review.

Agree 100%.

A true sports car, IMO, would be something raw and without the luxuries. I think Honda did a good job with the s2k CR where even AC was an option.

NISMO IX · 06-02-2019, 10:57 PM

Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z.

ImportConvert · 06-03-2019, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z.

So? Screw them. Who in this thread holds Nissan stock? If they can't get with it, why do they deserve an excuse and a charity sale?

ImportConvert · 06-03-2019, 04:43 AM

Eh, in 2008, the car was a $45k vehicle, but now? No way. Not when we have camaros and mustangs absolutely slaying it for much less. Back in 2008, you needed a P car, Cobra, or corvette to tear it up. Even as late as 2014 or so the mustang lacked irs, etc. and the camaro sucked. Now? The Z is just a fanboy car. Nothing wrong with that if you're a fanboy, and thats okay, but it has no curremt selling points from a technical stance.

NISMO IX · 06-03-2019, 10:32 AM

Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer.

ImportConvert · 06-03-2019, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer.

The Z at 45k is within several grand of the new Supra...

GraphiteZ · 06-04-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX

Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer.

You maybe right. In 2009, the Z was having 987 Cayman like handling and made more power than a Mustang GT with the 4.6L V8. Back then, Z owners didn't mind comparing the Z to anything with 4 wheels. The Z even won the C&D comparison test against the BMW 135i, Mazda RX-8 and Pontiac Solstice. But time has changed. If there is a new Z in the near future and, once again, handles like a Cayman and makes more horsepower than a V8 muscle car, I am sure Z owners will be posting comparison test results all over the forum again. People just like to compare, especially when they are winning.

06-01-2019, 10:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
hotprops Base Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: florida Posts: 60 Drives: nissan 370z Rep Power: 3363	I have been playing with cars for over 50 years and have had so many cars i cant remember them all, could be early onset alz as i am 66 years on this planet. what i do know is the 370z i have had for a year and a half ,is one of the most fun ,basic ,no bs machines i have had the pleasure of owning . and none of the bs that follows the ownership of units like carrera,california,cambacorsa ,ect.getting raped after purchas is not my idea of fun .in all my years this the first i have herd of doug and after scanning his vid i find him to be a boring ,***. why does a car have to change every few years to be considered good? tweaking it over 10 years has created a fine machine capable of embarrassing many on a tight road course.f..k doug Rusty, awjnismo, -ZS-Carpenter and 3 others like this.

06-01-2019, 07:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Threadlocker Base Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 74 Drives: 2010 Nismo #169 Rep Power: 13	Doug's review is more than fair, I actually thought he'd score it a lot worse, since the Z has fallen so far behind modern competition. He knocks on it for how little features it has, but if he consistently does this with all the vehicles he reviews, it'd be stupid if he gave it more points for "being good for the time". He never pretends to be an expert, but he certainly has experience reviewing vehicles. It's amazing so many of you trash him while also saying "i'll stick to people who know what they're talking about" - why? If anybody listened to experts, none of us would own Z cars. EZT and cv129 like this. __________________ Not the alpha male, go ask someone else.

06-02-2019, 02:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2302	I didn't read this entire thread, but did anyone catch the part where he said there was a "subwoofer where the spare should be, but there's no spare"? He didn't even bother to look a little deeper/better to see that the sub is mounted to the spare. Things like this and all the other stuff mentioned in this thread is precisely why I never pay attention to reviewers no matter what it is. If I want to read reviews on something, I dig up random forums and sites online where actual people like you and me post up our actual experiences with the product. That's where you get your most accurate reviews, not some a$$ clown who thinks he knows what he's talking about and makes a living off of it. Sway, MplsPete, ShuuraRG and 1 others like this. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

06-02-2019, 03:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	You figure a "professional" review would include research before doing the review. Just so you don't come across like a dumbass. The fact that a few things he said sound like diarrhea. Also, I guess I am one of those true sports car type guys though, I mean, who needs electric seats and sound deadening material because of "road noise", only to spoil the ride by adding weight. Then have "reviewers" complain about the Z being too heavy for a sports car. There has always been hate by most reviewers on this car. People should make thier own opinion by test driving one before judging on some else's biased diarrhea, erm, review. vtec to vvel and MZ DAIZY like this. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

06-02-2019, 10:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	Some people should stop and think about what it actually takes to develop a brand new car and how much that costs. When you sell more mustangs in one year than Nissan has sold of the 370z since 2009, there is a lot less to invest in future models. Ford can sell enough to invest in a new mustang every 5 years or so. Nissan maybe waiting to make return investment before investing into a new Z. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

06-02-2019, 08:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
sizziano Base Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: CAE, SC Posts: 68 Drives: '18 Sport TECH Rep Power: 11	This thread went downhill fast

06-03-2019, 04:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7628	Eh, in 2008, the car was a $45k vehicle, but now? No way. Not when we have camaros and mustangs absolutely slaying it for much less. Back in 2008, you needed a P car, Cobra, or corvette to tear it up. Even as late as 2014 or so the mustang lacked irs, etc. and the camaro sucked. Now? The Z is just a fanboy car. Nothing wrong with that if you're a fanboy, and thats okay, but it has no curremt selling points from a technical stance.

06-03-2019, 10:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
NISMO IX Track Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Southern Maine Age: 47 Posts: 742 Drives: 2014 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 584	Sounds like I struck a nerve, not my intent. Purpose of my comparison was simply for sales figures only. The fact that people compare the Z to a muscle car, pony car and SEDAN, is absurd. When you compare apples to apples performance wise and in the same category, the Z is STILL a good buy for what you get. The Z was never intended to be a muscle car equivalent. And if they did, I personally would move on from the Z, and buy a sports car/grand tourer. MZ DAIZY likes this. __________________ 2017 Ford Focus RS Nitrous Blue "KB43VER" 2014 370z Mag Blk 6M "KOKURYU" (Black Dragon)

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