Car and Driver Crashes a Nismo 370Z

BrianMSmith · 01-12-2010, 12:34 PM

If you have ordinary street pads on ordinary Mustang brakes....no problem. Ordinary street pads on the Nismo brakes, and you have major worries.

Even so, C&D did not like the Nismo much. From what I've heard, it's not as good as the standard + sport, could be the bigger wheels wreck the handling and grip...not as well matched to the suspension and related chassis bits as the plain old Z?

I just got out of a 9 year old Camaro, and the Z is not a "fast" car folks, not in the way most of us experience it. Get out of the GT500 or Camaro SS and you're wondering where Nissan left the engine. The Z is not a fast car, but it doesn't need to be, and it's not trying to be. On a track like the Lightning, it's gonna get whipped by 450hp no matter how great it steers. The Z is about the driving experience, and the Z has a Royal Flush on that trick. The Europeans, with all their sophistication, love the Miata MX-5 for chrissakes, for exactly this reason. And they love the Z. I miss the power of my old SS, but the Z offers much more, and for a road driving enthusiast, that's what I care about. Track times mean didly. I still ride an old Ducati 748 that has half the power of a new Duc 1198, and I prefer it that way. The drive is more about the connection and the rythm, less about staying attached to it.

ChrisSlicks · 01-12-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianMSmith

I just got out of a 9 year old Camaro, and the Z is not a "fast" car folks, not in the way most of us experience it. Get out of the GT500 or Camaro SS and you're wondering where Nissan left the engine. The Z is not a fast car, but it doesn't need to be, and it's not trying to be. On a track like the Lightning, it's gonna get whipped by 450hp no matter how great it steers. The Z is about the driving experience, and the Z has a Royal Flush on that trick. The Europeans, with all their sophistication, love the Miata MX-5 for chrissakes, for exactly this reason. And they love the Z. I miss the power of my old SS, but the Z offers much more, and for a road driving enthusiast, that's what I care about. Track times mean didly. I still ride an old Ducati 748 that has half the power of a new Duc 1198, and I prefer it that way. The drive is more about the connection and the rythm, less about staying attached to it.

Using the middle of the road numbers for all

2001 Camaro Z28
hp: 310
weight: 3614 lb
0-60: 6.5 sec
1/4: 14.0 @ 105 mph

2010 Camaro SS Manual
hp: 426
weight: 3849
0-60: 4.6 sec
1/4: 13.0 @ 108 mph

2009 Nissan 370Z Sport Manual
hp: 332
weight: 3232
0-60: 4.7 sec
1/4: 13.3 sec @ 106 mph

The number would indicate that the Camaro SS is just slightly faster in a straight line. Power it has a-plenty, and it will certainly "feel" faster due to the lower torque response.

Technik330 · 01-12-2010, 01:39 PM

I would like to avoid turning this into a muscle cars are cool debate; but I'd like to see an American "Muscle" car come up to the plate under 5 liters and putting out close to 9-10 hp / .1 liter and without a "blower."

That's the only gripe I really have with muscle cars, throw some more displacement at it mentality...

IDZRVIT · 01-12-2010, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technik330

I would like to avoid turning this into a muscle cars are cool debate; but I'd like to see an American "Muscle" car come up to the plate under 5 liters and putting out close to 9-10 hp / .1 liter and without a "blower."

That's the only gripe I really have with muscle cars, throw some more displacement at it mentality...

LOL!!!! What in heck do you think a muscle car is? More cubes=more HP/TQ. Straight line performance for 1320 ft in the least time.

Technik330 · 01-12-2010, 03:37 PM

^

Very fast moving houses

01-12-2010, 03:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
Technik330 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 53 Drives: 05' BMW 330Ci ZHP Rep Power: 17	^ Very fast moving houses Last edited by Technik330; 01-12-2010 at 03:48 PM.

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01-12-2010, 12:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
BrianMSmith Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: secret Posts: 267 Drives: 370Z, Ducati 748S Rep Power: 17	If you have ordinary street pads on ordinary Mustang brakes....no problem. Ordinary street pads on the Nismo brakes, and you have major worries. Even so, C&D did not like the Nismo much. From what I've heard, it's not as good as the standard + sport, could be the bigger wheels wreck the handling and grip...not as well matched to the suspension and related chassis bits as the plain old Z? I just got out of a 9 year old Camaro, and the Z is not a "fast" car folks, not in the way most of us experience it. Get out of the GT500 or Camaro SS and you're wondering where Nissan left the engine. The Z is not a fast car, but it doesn't need to be, and it's not trying to be. On a track like the Lightning, it's gonna get whipped by 450hp no matter how great it steers. The Z is about the driving experience, and the Z has a Royal Flush on that trick. The Europeans, with all their sophistication, love the Miata MX-5 for chrissakes, for exactly this reason. And they love the Z. I miss the power of my old SS, but the Z offers much more, and for a road driving enthusiast, that's what I care about. Track times mean didly. I still ride an old Ducati 748 that has half the power of a new Duc 1198, and I prefer it that way. The drive is more about the connection and the rythm, less about staying attached to it.

01-12-2010, 01:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Technik330 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 53 Drives: 05' BMW 330Ci ZHP Rep Power: 17	I would like to avoid turning this into a muscle cars are cool debate; but I'd like to see an American "Muscle" car come up to the plate under 5 liters and putting out close to 9-10 hp / .1 liter and without a "blower." That's the only gripe I really have with muscle cars, throw some more displacement at it mentality...