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Exactly...plus who cares in 3 years most cars drop like rocks ...trying to buy a car based on what it will be worth in a couple years is futile. Expect

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Old 04-20-2017, 01:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exactly...plus who cares in 3 years most cars drop like rocks ...trying to buy a car based on what it will be worth in a couple years is futile. Expect it to drop like a rock if you drive tons of miles and you purchased the base model anything.

As an example I will say that most 2013 Nismos are selling around 28k with low miles...thats 4 years old and at MSRP of around 43k back in 2013 about a 34% drop in 4 years. No way near your 3 year 50% drop analysis. Plus consider like ssmoked mentioned that no one pays MSRP....plus honestly anyone buying new is making a mistake already...
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Exactly...plus who cares in 3 years most cars drop like rocks ...trying to buy a car based on what it will be worth in a couple years
The point being that the residual value on my 2011 370Z was $23,000. The residual value on my 2014 is $22,500. The residual value on a 2017 is $15,945. It's a dying car line. They can't afford to upgrade it because it will be so expensive that no one will buy it. For now, they can afford to keep it in the catalogue, but sales are so increasingly pathetic that, in three years, Nissan is confident that the car will be worth less than 1/2 of its purchase price. To me, that signals that the end of the Z is near - likely within 3 years.
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The point being that the residual value on my 2011 370Z was $23,000. The residual value on my 2014 is $22,500. The residual value on a 2017 is $15,945. It's a dying car line. They can't afford to upgrade it because it will be so expensive that no one will buy it. For now, they can afford to keep it in the catalogue, but sales are so increasingly pathetic that, in three years, Nissan is confident that the car will be worth less than 1/2 of its purchase price. To me, that signals that the end of the Z is near - likely within 3 years.


Not if they upgrade it and just make it more performance based....because as I mentioned the drop in value was only around 30% in 4 years for my Nismo....Also note that their calculated residual values are based on a car that probably drives the typical miles which is around 45k in 3 years....so they are showing the residual value on the two extremes: base model and high miles...its not reflective of a higher performance based model. Which they essentially almost do not have.....I get what your saying and if they do drop it I would be happy. I have mine and that is all that matters....it will also become more rare than it already is...
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Not if they upgrade it and just make it more performance based....because as I mentioned the drop in value was only around 30% in 4 years for my Nismo....Also note that their calculated residual values are based on a car that probably drives the typical miles which is around 45k in 3 years....so they are showing the residual value on the two extremes: base model and high miles...its not reflective of a higher performance based model. Which they essentially almost do not have.....I get what your saying and if they do drop it I would be happy. I have mine and that is all that matters....it will also become more rare than it already is...
Wishful thinking. The Z will be dead in three years.
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Yes, but the point s he has been updated since it came out. The 911 had a major update in 2011. The 370z hasn't had any major changes since 2009.

Your comparison is flawed. You talking about an entire series of cars, and comparing it to a single generation of a car.


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I posted this in the Z35 thread but it applies here too.

I feel like some of you guys are reading too much into what that guy said. The article quotes him saying that the 370z is not a priority. Why would the 370z specifically be a priority now after years of stagnation? I think he is referring to the 370Z specifically, especially since there is no other context given to us and he actually says "370z". Maybe that was a response to a question regarding the heritage edition. Then he said he hopes that they will have a successor, which falls in line with what Nissan itself has been doing with Z speculation. Not confirming, nor denying. I really think his comments are being taken out of context and people are running with it. Thats the kind of thing these articles do to generate buzz. Especially since every outlet that I can find only quotes the same 2 exact things as everyone else and nothing else that he said in between or before those quotes. It leads me to believe that they are just piggybacking off of what one journalist wrote and building on that.


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