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Originally Posted by littlejuanito Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it These are

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Old 10-18-2016, 02:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it
These are two different cars, different stories behind it, it has been discontinued, and there's not a lot of them out there that are in decent shape either so of course the price will hold for a well kept S2k. Compare that to a 350Z vert and that'll tell you another story.

Right now the competition is tough for the Z. I say just enjoy the Z for what it is. It is a great car regardless of where it sits in the market place.
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Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it
Those values are getting soft now also... the halo days for most sports cars are done now. The market has gotten saturated.

We have to remember here that from 08-11 everyone unloaded the sports cars to be more sensible, and now it is like the reverse happening... Everyone was trying to get their "babys" back from the crisis.
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Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it
Because its discontinued and its a great car(nothing quite like it on the market) and they didn't make that many. But only the AP2s hold their value unless you have an AP1 that has low miles and has been garaged all its life. Maybe if they discontinue the Z it will have the same affect on our cars since they didn't make that many 370z's, compared to the 350z of course. It would kind of be like AP2(370z) vs AP1(350z) in resell value. But this is all just wishful thinking of course.
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Because its discontinued and its a great car(nothing quite like it on the market) and they didn't make that many. But only the AP2s hold their value unless you have an AP1 that has low miles and has been garaged all its life. Maybe if they discontinue the Z it will have the same affect on our cars since they didn't make that many 370z's, compared to the 350z of course. It would kind of be like AP2(370z) vs AP1(350z) in resell value. But this is all just wishful thinking of course.
you forgot

honda fanbois thats why
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you forgot

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Haha yup great cars can produce those kinda crowds.
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I don't care about your point. You talked some **** about hair dressers or whatever. You're ragging on the car because it is automatic, I get that it doesn't have a knob to slob, so does everyone else.

They make automatics for a reason and 50% of them are autos, there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car.

This is not an automatic vs manual thread.
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I don't care about your point. You talked some **** about hair dressers or whatever. You're ragging on the car because it is automatic, I get that it doesn't have a knob to slob, so does everyone else.

They make automatics for a reason and 50% of them are autos, there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car.

This is not an automatic vs manual thread.
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I don't care about your point. You talked some **** about hair dressers or whatever. You're ragging on the car because it is automatic, I get that it doesn't have a knob to slob, so does everyone else.

They make automatics for a reason and 50% of them are autos, there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car.

This is not an automatic vs manual thread.


Again, clueless...

I was never "ragging" on your car because it's an auto. I was never saying anything about auto vs manual. That has all been your doing.

You're the one who got all butt-hurt when I properly answered your question as to why your car wasn't selling.

And as to this... there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car...

I say this...


Yeah, precisely why EVERY form of auto racing (except drag racing), a manual transmission or sequential transmission is used. Which I must reiterate, a sequential transmission IS a manual transmission.


And as for your analysis...




Okay, I'm done... For now.
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Again, clueless...

I was never "ragging" on your car because it's an auto. I was never saying anything about auto vs manual. That has all been your doing.

You're the one who got all butt-hurt when I properly answered your question as to why your car wasn't selling.

And as to this... there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car...

I say this...


Yeah, precisely why EVERY form of auto racing (except drag racing), a manual transmission or sequential transmission is used. Which I must reiterate, a sequential transmission IS a manual transmission.


And as for your analysis...




Okay, I'm done... For now.
Formula One cars are auto with paddle shifters aren't they?

You might also want to share your opinion with Chevy as they just curb-stomped the Ring in their ZL1 with the 10-speed auto, with the driver leaving it in D the entire way and scored a 7:29.60 time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFnrcpBj5k
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Formula One cars are auto with paddle shifters aren't they?

You might also want to share your opinion with Chevy as they just curb-stomped the Ring in their ZL1 with the 10-speed auto, with the driver leaving it in D the entire way and scored a 7:29.60 time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrFnrcpBj5k
Not really,a sequential manual gearbox is by definition a "non traditional" type of manual transmission.Fully automatic transmission systems, and gearbox-related wizardry such as launch control, are illegal in F1.
F1 are not auto and there is a clutch but the driver is not required to manually operate it.
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To the original post-er; I am 99% sure I just bought your car from the dealership you sold it to; it was in impressive condition - Thank you!

I've owned two beautiful immaculate 350Z's over the years; one was totaled by a women who rear-ended me at a stop light, the other I sold when I got married and had a baby on the way; both manual touring models I drove as daily drivers.

In December of 2008, I attended the Indianapolis Auto Show and went about the whole show room seeing many fine machines and then this light from the heavens came down on this stunning 2009 Blue Sport Touring 370Z (which wasn't even available to the public yet). I drooled on it for almost 30 minutes and told myself that I will have this car someday when things settle down and the finances allow it more safely.

3 months ago I turned 40 and decided I would have a mid-life crisis (kidding).
Business has been good to me and when I brought up getting another car to my wife this time, she said "I'm ok with it but I'd prefer it were an automatic if I get to drive it". Taking this cue, I began the hunt.

Long story short, I found this car which fit every criteria I'd been searching for and it had low miles which blew my mind. After a difficult process to procure it (it took almost 1 month to get the car to my doorstep after paperwork mishaps and shipping delays), I finally have it in my garage

I feel almost guilty / unworthy sometimes when I see it in the garage or get in it to drive to work; it's so nice for the price they sell for and yet I know I've earned it through years of hard work and patience.

Maybe someday I'll get over that feeling - when I retire later on in life
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Z car is for 2 different generations. One being tuners. But with them being young. Insurance would be sky high. Second is people older with out kids. They can afford insurance and payment. They may also know little about the history of the z or wanted a Datsun z back in there youth?

But yes a stick shift for older generation is a must. Tuners generation might want the auto.
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Z car is for 2 different generations. One being tuners. But with them being young. Insurance would be sky high. Second is people older with out kids. They can afford insurance and payment. They may also know little about the history of the z or wanted a Datsun z back in there youth?

But yes a stick shift for older generation is a must. Tuners generation might want the auto.

How did you come up with this analysis? Tuners who go for automatics and have to pay high insurance rates and older generation without kids who go for manual and can afford insurance? ********* **** ***** *****

Edited to be nice. Property value in this neighborhood has gone down a little. LOL.
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How did you come up with this analysis? Tuners who go for automatics and have to pay high insurance rates and older generation without kids who go for manual and can afford insurance? ********* **** ***** *****

Edited to be nice. Property value in this neighborhood has gone down a little. LOL.
Cause kids are lazy and don't want to learn manual trans. Also I remember when I was young my insurance was high. Sports car ( Monte Carlo ) with full coverage at 18 with clean record would have been like 1,800+ every 6 months. Just going off experience here.
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