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Is the market for the Zs really soft right now?

Originally Posted by ChopsZ Hey, I'm just saying... For an enthusiast, they're going for a manual, not an auto. Your average American Joe-Schmoe on the other hand, well you know...

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Old 10-16-2016, 09:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, I'm just saying... For an enthusiast, they're going for a manual, not an auto. Your average American Joe-Schmoe on the other hand, well you know... Whether that means anything to you or not, then so be it.

It's blue and an auto... Maybe try parking it in front of a nail or hair salon. You might have better luck in those locations.
I think this is pretty much the truth in most cases. My feeling is, again in most cases, those who drive an auto trans sports car were never taught by their dad how to drive a stick. There, I said it. Case in point: my SIL. My son, on the other hand, always insists on a manual in his vehicles. Although maybe that will change when he gets married, for practical reasons, the wife will no doubt insist that her car has an auto.�� But otherwise why would you drive a "true sports car" with an auto trans if a manual was offered? I mean, cars like the Z06 and Viper are only offered with a manual. (Only newer super cars like Ferrari, Lambo, and Porsche notwithstanding since they may not offer a manual in certain models)
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Hey, I'm just saying... For an enthusiast, they're going for a manual, not an auto. Your average American Joe-Schmoe on the other hand, well you know... Whether that means anything to you or not, then so be it.

It's blue and an auto... Maybe try parking it in front of a nail or hair salon. You might have better luck in those locations.
Yea I scheduled to get my **** chopped off after the first drive in the automatic Z that is faster and more fuel efficient than the manual counterpart.

Makes perfect sense.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yea I scheduled to get my **** chopped off after the first drive in the automatic Z that is faster and more fuel efficient than the manual counterpart.

Makes perfect sense.
You really have no clue.

For one, it's only faster in a drag race, in a bone stock Z. Who gives a rats a$$ about drag racing in a Z? Almost no one.

Second, who cares if it's more fuel efficient? Nissan states 18/26 MT6, 19/26 AT7. Wow, one whole mile extra in city. That's going to make a major difference.

Also, IF you're really concerned about fuel efficiency in a sports car, you can easily hypermile with a MT, not so much in an AT. And just by chance, I've been doing a little hypermiling this past week in town, averaging 31 mpg for roughly 100 miles... In town! 31 mpg! And I wasn't even going crazy with it. I was just playing around some with it. Try that with the AT.


But enough of this silly bickering. Since you totally missed my point in my first post, I'll spell it out for you...

Other than possibly women who would gladly go for a blue auto Z, the two types of guys who would be looking for a used Z are either guys who are married and want to get a weekend sports car for a great price, or those younger high school/college guys who are on a tight budget but want to get a Z at a great price. Both of these types of guys are most likely hunting for a MT in their sports car, not an auto.

My argument was never about one transmission being better than the other.
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This one's an AT7, but that seems to be all that's being offered around here:
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OP I'm in CA. April 2016 I purchased a 2014 touring, sport, 7AT, 8,100 mi. One owner, dealer maintained and certified (couple oil changes) $27,750 plus tax title etc. your asking price seems fair. I flew from the Bay Area to SoCal and drove back.
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OP I'm in CA. April 2016 I purchased a 2014 touring, sport, 7AT, 8,100 mi. One owner, dealer maintained and certified (couple oil changes) $27,750 plus tax title etc. your asking price seems fair. I flew from the Bay Area to SoCal and drove back.
Dang that's 4K more than I'm asking ... but yea seems about right
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Welcome to the world of owning a nissan, as much as i love these cars and still do ) this was my only gripe, the value of these cars goes to **** with a few exceptions such as the (240z HR 350 r34) now i know that buying a car is by no means an investment but darn man **** happens and once you are off the lot these things go for pennies on the dollar. Good luck with the sale man its a beauty of a car.
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We should get FPEnvy in here to add to this discussion.
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This thread seems to have degenerated into a 6MT vs 7AT.
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kids these dayz dont drive stick
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The AT is a great trans in the Z cars, however without sounding like an ******* what these guys are saying is that it would be rather easier to sell the 6 speed


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The new and used market for Z's has been soft for a long, long time. It was never strong to begin with. It is a niche market and the audience dwindles further because it cannot provide what the market wants --- usable rear seats and power (vs its so called American counterparts) and this is one reason why you see the new turbo motor on the the Q. There is a usable rear seat. Nissan never intended to keep up with competitor's upping their game. If they did, we would have seen various upgrades to keep our beeks wet. Nissan got themselves in a tough spot because the car was also priced too high to begin with and there was no indication that sales would go up with increased power. Adding a turbo then would have increased the cost to the consumer potentially hurting sales. There was no money to be made. Ford, Chevy, and Dodge figured it out. Get a big motor and slap it in a car, put decent brakes and suspension and oh, don't forget the rear seats.

For those who like the Z because of it's rarity, you can thank Nissan for that.

In a nutshell why it is soft --- priced too high, never kept up with it's competitors, not enough power, and no usable rear seat (it's just not practical).
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In a nutshell why it is soft --- priced too high, never kept up with it's competitors, not enough power, and no usable rear seat (it's just not practical).


Plus, it's an old car now. It's more or less identical to the same car you could have driven home in late 2008.
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In a nutshell why it is soft --- priced too high, never kept up with it's competitors, not enough power, and no usable rear seat (it's just not practical).
Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it
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I love my automatic, coming from a Por car I think this year they are all PDK automatics, no MT from what I read..
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