Is the market for the Zs really soft right now?

Ventruck · 10-15-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

What the ****. I need to move to the East coast.

I'm like OP in California. Paid that much for a 2013 S&T @ 30k miles earlier this year, albeit from a used dealer. I couldn't find any better deal in sight at the time.

enkei2k · 10-16-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

salvage titled maybe...

ViCiouS · 10-19-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck

What the ****. I need to move to the East coast.

I'm like OP in California. Paid that much for a 2013 S&T @ 30k miles earlier this year, albeit from a used dealer. I couldn't find any better deal in sight at the time.

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K

So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

I'd like to see a link to one. I have not seen a single 2016 under 30k that has the same options.

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

salvage titled maybe...

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though

Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

axmea? · 10-19-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

A Monte Carlo is a sports car?

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

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Originally Posted by EP370z

Cause kids are lazy and don't want to learn manual trans. Also I remember when I was young my insurance was high. Sports car ( Monte Carlo ) with full coverage at 18 with clean record would have been like 1,800+ every 6 months. Just going off experience here.

I weep for our future if this were true and for your mere analysis in response to the OPs question.

Dirk McGurck · 10-19-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

Especially with the final generation Impalas and Monte Carlos being FWD V8 automatics...

ChopsZ · 10-19-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

But that anemic 305 with a whopping 180 hp. Yuck.

My father had the same motor in his '89 Caprice. He tried hopping it up with a cam, full exhaust, headers, K&N filter with a dual snorkel air cleaner assembly, and a Jet performance chip. It helped some, but by no means a speed demon. He ended up trading it in a little later on an '89 Mustang LX 5.0.

madeinjapan · 10-19-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K

So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though

Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

yours will sell 20k or under

kidz need payments under $300

370bluez · 10-19-2016, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViCiouS

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K

So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though

Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

I am 3-6k lower than all of those...

ViCiouS · 10-19-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

I am 3-6k lower than all of those...

Your original price was 0k - 4k lower. Hence my original comment...

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

sofaonasock · 10-13-2016, 07:18 PM

Have you tried CarMax? Would the offer have been better as a 6MT?

370bluez · 10-14-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sofaonasock

Have you tried CarMax? Would the offer have been better as a 6MT?

Yep their offer was laughable

.

Local dealer offered 1k more

Magic Bus · 10-14-2016, 04:27 PM

370bluez, To answer your initial question, I do believe the market is soft for Z's now. But not just Z's, 2 door sports cars are in a niche market, and I believe this market has gotten smaller over the years. I follow a Porsche forum, and talk about taking a hit. Cayman owners have it much worse than us Z owners.

I have a feeling that your color, while very nice, may not be appreciated by a large percent of the buyers out there. Also keep in mind, the added features/options that you have in your car which you paid for, depreciates a lot and may not mean much to a buyer in the secondary market.

I am looking to sell my Z next year, so I've been checking Craigslist occasionally, and it doesn't look favorable here either. Good luck on your sale.

ChopsZ · 10-15-2016, 10:20 AM

The fact that it's an AT7 doesn't help matters any. I too am old school and firmly believe that a sports car should only come with a MT. The closest thing I'd ever get to an AT is a sequential transmission, and that's still a manual. Flappy paddle autos don't count either.

The blue color, I could take it or leave it. Maybe if I were younger, I'd be more willing to buy blue.

At any rate, good luck on selling it.

370bluez · 10-16-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

The fact that it's an AT7 doesn't help matters any. I too am old school and firmly believe that a sports car should only come with a MT. The closest thing I'd ever get to an AT is a sequential transmission, and that's still a manual. Flappy paddle autos don't count either.

The blue color, I could take it or leave it. Maybe if I were younger, I'd be more willing to buy blue.

At any rate, good luck on selling it.

Right transmission choice is a preference if everyone wanted a manual they wouldn't sell automatics. It is what it is, this is like saying my dog got run over by a red car therefore every red car is worth nothing to me

ChopsZ · 10-16-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

Right transmission choice is a preference if everyone wanted a manual they wouldn't sell automatics. It is what it is, this is like saying my dog got run over by a red car therefore every red car is worth nothing to me

Hey, I'm just saying... For an enthusiast, they're going for a manual, not an auto. Your average American Joe-Schmoe on the other hand, well you know... Whether that means anything to you or not, then so be it.

It's blue and an auto... Maybe try parking it in front of a nail or hair salon. You might have better luck in those locations.

10-13-2016, 07:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
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ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 50 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2302	The fact that it's an AT7 doesn't help matters any. I too am old school and firmly believe that a sports car should only come with a MT. The closest thing I'd ever get to an AT is a sequential transmission, and that's still a manual. Flappy paddle autos don't count either. The blue color, I could take it or leave it. Maybe if I were younger, I'd be more willing to buy blue. At any rate, good luck on selling it. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

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10-14-2016, 04:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18755	370bluez, To answer your initial question, I do believe the market is soft for Z's now. But not just Z's, 2 door sports cars are in a niche market, and I believe this market has gotten smaller over the years. I follow a Porsche forum, and talk about taking a hit. Cayman owners have it much worse than us Z owners. I have a feeling that your color, while very nice, may not be appreciated by a large percent of the buyers out there. Also keep in mind, the added features/options that you have in your car which you paid for, depreciates a lot and may not mean much to a buyer in the secondary market. I am looking to sell my Z next year, so I've been checking Craigslist occasionally, and it doesn't look favorable here either. Good luck on your sale.