Is the market for the Zs really soft right now?

ViCiouS · 10-13-2016, 04:48 PM

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

mikewo6o · 10-13-2016, 06:54 PM

FWIW, I was offered $22.5 and $23.5 respectively at a Honda Dealer and a Buick/GMC dealer in our area a couple months ago for a trade-in. My Z is a 2014 PW automatic base with 5K miles. Decided to pass on both offers only because we decided to not trade at the time.

Both offers were on the high side of the KBB trade-in estimate via their website.

I paid $29K new in early 2014. I really didn't think the offers were all that bad.

370bluez · 10-14-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mikewo6o

FWIW, I was offered $22.5 and $23.5 respectively at a Honda Dealer and a Buick/GMC dealer in our area a couple months ago for a trade-in. My Z is a 2014 PW automatic base with 5K miles. Decided to pass on both offers only because we decided to not trade at the time.

Both offers were on the high side of the KBB trade-in estimate via their website.

I paid $29K new in early 2014. I really didn't think the offers were all that bad.

Your offers are 3-4K higher than what I'm getting ... and you have a lower spec car ... interesting

mikewo6o · 10-14-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

Your offers are 3-4K higher than what I'm getting ... and you have a lower spec car ... interesting

I agree. I was surprised at the two offers I received. I was expecting something in the high teens. Also, in both cases, the Honda and Buick/GMC dealers were both giving decent discounts on the two vehicles we were interested in. In the end, we decided to hang on to the Z for another year.

BehindSpace · 10-15-2016, 06:16 AM

The market for Zs is always soft. The higher the trim the worse the depreciation too. Chop 10,000 off a nismo the moment you drive it off the lot.

370bluez · 10-14-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

I'd like to see a link to one. I have not seen a single 2016 under 30k that has the same options.

Ventruck · 10-15-2016, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

What the ****. I need to move to the East coast.

I'm like OP in California. Paid that much for a 2013 S&T @ 30k miles earlier this year, albeit from a used dealer. I couldn't find any better deal in sight at the time.

enkei2k · 10-16-2016, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

You can get 2016s with sport/touring/tech for $27 -28k with under 10k miles. Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

salvage titled maybe...

ViCiouS · 10-19-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck

What the ****. I need to move to the East coast.

I'm like OP in California. Paid that much for a 2013 S&T @ 30k miles earlier this year, albeit from a used dealer. I couldn't find any better deal in sight at the time.

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K

So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

I'd like to see a link to one. I have not seen a single 2016 under 30k that has the same options.

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

salvage titled maybe...

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though

Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

axmea? · 10-19-2016, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck

A Monte Carlo is a sports car?

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

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Originally Posted by EP370z

Cause kids are lazy and don't want to learn manual trans. Also I remember when I was young my insurance was high. Sports car ( Monte Carlo ) with full coverage at 18 with clean record would have been like 1,800+ every 6 months. Just going off experience here.

I weep for our future if this were true and for your mere analysis in response to the OPs question.

Dirk McGurck · 10-19-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

Especially with the final generation Impalas and Monte Carlos being FWD V8 automatics...

ChopsZ · 10-19-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

But that anemic 305 with a whopping 180 hp. Yuck.

My father had the same motor in his '89 Caprice. He tried hopping it up with a cam, full exhaust, headers, K&N filter with a dual snorkel air cleaner assembly, and a Jet performance chip. It helped some, but by no means a speed demon. He ended up trading it in a little later on an '89 Mustang LX 5.0.

madeinjapan · 10-19-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K

So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though

Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

yours will sell 20k or under

kidz need payments under $300

370bluez · 10-19-2016, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViCiouS

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K

So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though

Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

I am 3-6k lower than all of those...

ViCiouS · 10-19-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 370bluez

I am 3-6k lower than all of those...

Your original price was 0k - 4k lower. Hence my original comment...

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Originally Posted by ViCiouS

Personally I'd pay 2-3k more for a 4 year newer car.

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10-13-2016, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
mikewo6o Base Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern CA Posts: 22 Drives: 2014 370Z White Base Rep Power: 13	FWIW, I was offered $22.5 and $23.5 respectively at a Honda Dealer and a Buick/GMC dealer in our area a couple months ago for a trade-in. My Z is a 2014 PW automatic base with 5K miles. Decided to pass on both offers only because we decided to not trade at the time. Both offers were on the high side of the KBB trade-in estimate via their website. I paid $29K new in early 2014. I really didn't think the offers were all that bad.

10-15-2016, 06:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
BehindSpace Base Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 83 Drives: 2014 Evo X MR Rep Power: 87	The market for Zs is always soft. The higher the trim the worse the depreciation too. Chop 10,000 off a nismo the moment you drive it off the lot.