6MT vs 7AT and the Track/Auto X

370Zsteve · 10-22-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by awesomez

I have driven over 150+ different cars and I've had my license for 13 years. So yes that means I have driven my first manual with a booster seat. Yes I know what a sequential is, that's why I didn't say anything about sequential but about your belittling of modern auto transmissions.

I wouldn't touch the S word if I were you. I doubt you have anything to do with science, I would guess there is a good chance you believe in easter bunny.

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

If you want to bring your car to a track I would be happy to show you how to drive.

370Zsteve · 10-22-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7

Hmm... I'll have to pay more attention, but that's not really the feeling that I get; it seems pretty seemless to me.

As someone who has driven both manuals and automatics, I think there is a little bit of "Back in my day we walked five miles to school!" style thinking when it comes to glorifying manual transmissions

. Does anyone really think manuals will even be an available option twenty years from now? Five years ago I would have been in total agreement with most of you, but it seems like we are at the point where automatics are catching up to and possibly surpassing manuals.

Great post. I take the opposite tack with the lifecycle of manuals, though. In twenty years I think a stick and a clutch pedal will be an option, just as it is today. In Europe they still scoff at AT's unless it's on an F1 car, then of course it's ok.

In the US, the AT rules since the US is so auto-centric for commuting as opposed to EuroAsia which is public-transport-centric for commuting. In the US, the rush-hour traffic jam is a fact of life that begs an AT. In Europe it's like 'ok it's Saturday let's take the Carrera out for the day'.

The Manual Transmission/Clutch Shall Endure. I hereby decree it.

Portlander · 10-22-2009, 06:44 PM

My Car & Driver (April 09) has the 6MT running a 13.4 @ 107. It appears the going trend is to compare the 7AT's fastest times against the 6MT's slowest "magazine" times. As each week passes, the performance gap between the two cars gets larger which amuses me. I would give the automatic a tenth or two at the most in the quarter and that's factoring the 37 extra pounds it's lugging around. Until the two square off at the track with equal drivers, this discussion will continue on, which is harmless entertainment.

Test drove the 7AT this past weekend and was impressed with it's quick shifts and smooth operation, but not enough to sway me away from the manual. In my former drag racing days, we would bust on drivers with automatic transmissions. Those days are gone, A/T's have improved so much they now have to be considered in the purchase of a performance vehicle, where before I would not have given the automatic a second thought.

Red370 · 10-22-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

According to Car and Driver- M/T is 13.6sec @ 105mph. A/T is 13.1 @ 108-Standing quarter mile! Nissan 370 Z.

while motor trend posts a 13.2 with the 6MT.... Your right shaba, assaulted by magazine numbers, I have my own to hit back with.

shabarivas · 10-22-2009, 07:31 PM

Woot woot hahaha - seriously guys ... we are taking about 0.2 seconds... you know how much time we have wasted arguing about this lol...

Lug · 10-22-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

Woot woot hahaha - seriously guys ... we are taking about 0.2 seconds... you know how much time we have wasted arguing about this lol...

.2 seconds is huge! Why, that's as long as my sexual stamina!

10-22-2009, 06:44 PM	#78 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 15	My Car & Driver (April 09) has the 6MT running a 13.4 @ 107. It appears the going trend is to compare the 7AT's fastest times against the 6MT's slowest "magazine" times. As each week passes, the performance gap between the two cars gets larger which amuses me. I would give the automatic a tenth or two at the most in the quarter and that's factoring the 37 extra pounds it's lugging around. Until the two square off at the track with equal drivers, this discussion will continue on, which is harmless entertainment. Test drove the 7AT this past weekend and was impressed with it's quick shifts and smooth operation, but not enough to sway me away from the manual. In my former drag racing days, we would bust on drivers with automatic transmissions. Those days are gone, A/T's have improved so much they now have to be considered in the purchase of a performance vehicle, where before I would not have given the automatic a second thought. __________________ Life is a highway!

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10-22-2009, 07:31 PM	#80 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Woot woot hahaha - seriously guys ... we are taking about 0.2 seconds... you know how much time we have wasted arguing about this lol...