Ahh Man...Mustang 5.0 swap???

m4a1mustang · 07-11-2011, 09:56 AM

The GT-R is their halo car. That's the one that will stick around regardless of whether it makes money, IMO.

I think the Z could go the way or the dodo bird, they could keep it around in it's typical 2-seater configuration, or they could try to reinvent it as a 2+2 to compete better with the other 2+2s on the market. I hope they don't, but it's a definite possibility.

Then there's obviously Nissan's green initiative... I could see a hybrid Z or full electric Z in the near future. :/

roplusbee · 07-11-2011, 10:00 AM

Hopefully Nissan does not throw in the towel on the Z. It is an icon. The have the GT-R, but the Z is pretty much what defines NISSAN. Other than the Maxima and Altima, what is left?

I would be interested to see some of the Mustang owners once I return from "hell", just to get a grip on how great they are as opposed to the lowly Z (sarcasm). Maybe I will go to a Ford dealer and test drive one for giggles.............

shadoquad · 07-11-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The GT-R is their halo car. That's the one that will stick around regardless of whether it makes money, IMO.

I think the Z could go the way or the dodo bird, they could keep it around in it's typical 2-seater configuration, or they could try to reinvent it as a 2+2 to compete better with the other 2+2s on the market. I hope they don't, but it's a definite possibility.

Then there's obviously Nissan's green initiative... I could see a hybrid Z or full electric Z in the near future. :/

The GT-R is "a" halo car. I'm unsure of whether they make profit on it or not. But the PR would be bad for Nissan to admit defeat and give up on the Z car.

It definitely could happen, but it would look bad.

m4a1mustang · 07-11-2011, 10:02 AM

The problem is I am not sure if Nissan cares about the Z's heritage. They are trying to push a very green lineup so I wouldn't be surprised to see them just use the name to help promote some new lame electric car. :/

m4a1mustang · 07-11-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

The GT-R is "a" halo car. I'm unsure of whether they make profit on it or not. But the PR would be bad for Nissan to admit defeat and give up on the Z car.

It definitely could happen, but it would look bad.

I'm not sure if the PR would be too bad. To be honest, the press never gave the Z car that much attention to begin with.

Plus, like I said, with Nissan trying to reinvent itself as a future-looking, green brand, I think any good PR from that would outweigh whatever bad PR castrating the Z might bring.

shadoquad · 07-11-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The problem is I am not sure if Nissan cares about the Z's heritage. They are trying to push a very green lineup so I wouldn't be surprised to see them just use the name to help promote some new lame electric car. :/

I could see that, too, although I don't know if it would be a bad thing. If the car performs well, I don't care what's powering its wheels or if it has a gearbox.

Still, they're certainly not keeping it around because it's exclusive like the Reventon. The Nissan 370Z does not come with a helicopter delivery option or take prizes at the Concours D'Elegance. lol it weighs down showroom floors

m4a1mustang · 07-11-2011, 10:06 AM

Bottom line is we are a dying breed. Not by our own choice, and we probably haven't seen the peak yet, but I think we're very close to the end of the high-powered, gas slurping cars we love so much. This is why I am a big proponent of enjoying it while we still can instead of fanboy fighting like we tend to do on these forums.

332 hp 3.7L, 412 hp 5.0... we're all going to end up in some 1.8L gas/electric hybrid nanny-mobile.

Drive like you stole the god damn thing, fellas. Enjoy it while you still can.

NewlyIMPORTed · 07-11-2011, 10:14 AM

^^^

I agree with all of that.. I just got a new STi and it gets an awesome 17mpg

but im going to drive the hell out of it!

daisuke149 · 07-11-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Bottom line is we are a dying breed. Not by our own choice, and we probably haven't seen the peak yet, but I think we're very close to the end of the high-powered, gas slurping cars we love so much. This is why I am a big proponent of enjoying it while we still can instead of fanboy fighting like we tend to do on these forums.

332 hp 3.7L, 412 hp 5.0... we're all going to end up in some 1.8L gas/electric hybrid nanny-mobile.

Drive like you stole the god damn thing, fellas. Enjoy it while you still can.

agree to an extent. huge motor gas slupring cars are coming to an end at some point. But that doesnt mean that all future cars will be nanny-mobiles.

There is obviously still a large enough demand for faster/exciting cars. Mustangs, STI, EVO, Corvettes, CTS-V, Porsche, etc that the exciting cars will not die off.

Sure it may be a 2.5 liter with some awesome technology that produces a ton of hp with low gas consumption, or a hybrid that is a torque monster, or even a pure electric that goes like hell.

If anything it seems that at some point people started getting more attached to the Big Engine Number vs the actual experience of driving the car. Aka, its a 6.3 liter oh baby yeah vs.. This car is awesome to drive.

One thing that will be missed personally though is the sound that the big v8's can make.. I still miss the sound my GTO made.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-11-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The problem is I am not sure if Nissan cares about the Z's heritage. They are trying to push a very green lineup so I wouldn't be surprised to see them just use the name to help promote some new lame electric car. :/

I could definitely see that happening.

90 ST · 07-11-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

and that's what I worry about. I know the bean counters at Nissan aren't too happy with the 370Z since they approved the project on the basis of selling 30k a year, so it makes you wonder if they are going to go ahead and invest in developing another Z or just throw in the towel. It's tough because its in a super competitive market. The $30-45k segment is tough... It's competing with Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Genesis, G37, etc.

they could also give the car more power, almost every car you mentioned has more power, even if they got it to 400hp with the wieght savings it would be right in there again.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-11-2011, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST

they could also give the car more power, almost every car you mentioned has more power, even if they got it to 400hp with the wieght savings it would be right in there again.

Maybe a nice pair of electric motors at the wheels could give it more power and make it more like a hybrid to promote their green image?

Red__Zed · 07-11-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 370ZNISMO#704

Yup stock for stock the mustang got beat leave it at that...... Now when we have two cars fully done with all boltons and a good tune then the mustang can get a re match.
And it will be another replay..

I just pulled on the 2011 camero ss hard in third and he never had a chance.. NISMO FTW...

Ok. The z won't make it under 4 minutes without an oil cooler though

shadoquad · 07-11-2011, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Ok. The z won't make it under 4 minutes without an oil cooler though

I don't have that problem because I use this brand of motor oil.

Now, the Mustang's SRA will have it spinning out on erry corner. As you and I saw in Zdayz, Mustangs are fine in a straight line, but they spin out all the time unless they have a go-pro mounted on the front bumper.

cptspeed · 07-11-2011, 03:39 PM

I love my Z and hopefully will always have it. I also love my 92 notch, which I get just as many looks in(and spanks the Z in a straight line). But they are way different cars. I think the solution is to have a garage full of cars. Deuce coupe, here I come!

07-11-2011, 09:56 AM	#31 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The GT-R is their halo car. That's the one that will stick around regardless of whether it makes money, IMO. I think the Z could go the way or the dodo bird, they could keep it around in it's typical 2-seater configuration, or they could try to reinvent it as a 2+2 to compete better with the other 2+2s on the market. I hope they don't, but it's a definite possibility. Then there's obviously Nissan's green initiative... I could see a hybrid Z or full electric Z in the near future. :/ __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-11-2011, 10:00 AM	#32 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 22	Hopefully Nissan does not throw in the towel on the Z. It is an icon. The have the GT-R, but the Z is pretty much what defines NISSAN. Other than the Maxima and Altima, what is left? I would be interested to see some of the Mustang owners once I return from "hell", just to get a grip on how great they are as opposed to the lowly Z (sarcasm). Maybe I will go to a Ford dealer and test drive one for giggles............. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

07-11-2011, 10:02 AM	#34 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	The problem is I am not sure if Nissan cares about the Z's heritage. They are trying to push a very green lineup so I wouldn't be surprised to see them just use the name to help promote some new lame electric car. :/ __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-11-2011, 10:06 AM	#37 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Bottom line is we are a dying breed. Not by our own choice, and we probably haven't seen the peak yet, but I think we're very close to the end of the high-powered, gas slurping cars we love so much. This is why I am a big proponent of enjoying it while we still can instead of fanboy fighting like we tend to do on these forums. 332 hp 3.7L, 412 hp 5.0... we're all going to end up in some 1.8L gas/electric hybrid nanny-mobile. Drive like you stole the god damn thing, fellas. Enjoy it while you still can. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

07-11-2011, 10:14 AM	#38 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 17	^^^ I agree with all of that.. I just got a new STi and it gets an awesome 17mpg but im going to drive the hell out of it! __________________ 2011 WRX STICobb Accessport, Nameless Performance exhaust, COBB SF Intake, COBB downpipe, 20% tint, Work Emotion XD9's

07-11-2011, 03:39 PM	#45 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	I love my Z and hopefully will always have it. I also love my 92 notch, which I get just as many looks in(and spanks the Z in a straight line). But they are way different cars. I think the solution is to have a garage full of cars. Deuce coupe, here I come! __________________ FI CBE, 20" forged specialties rims, swift springs, boston subs, kicker amp, focal components

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