Project Z

Mr&Mrs · 10-18-2022, 08:46 AM

So the new owner of the Z has been keeping me updated on the car and is active on social media. I do not use any social media, except forums I guess, so she sends me pics. The wife also shows me some of the stuff that's gets posted on IG and stuff like that. It has been fun to see the car enjoyed. I really neglected it from that perspective. Additional mods have been tasteful so far and based on her other Z im not too worried about the original vision from Dave and I going forward. Obviously want to stay in touch and asked to be offered the chance to purchase the car back if she ever sells it. Who knows what time holds and if given the opportunity to get the car back I may take it.

The C8 so far has been an unreliable mess and I cant find a dealership willing to go the extra mile that I give my cars. Currently it has been sitting at Stingray Chevrolet waiting on a back ordered part for 2+ weeks and it isnt even the first time its been there for the issue. They also refuse to do a simple transmission flush and filter change that could help eliminate known transmission failures countless people have had. Reason: The car isnt showing any codes.....Yeah that's the point by then its to late! I am currently working with GM to find a dealership near me that will do the job as countless others have had it done on the C8 forums.

Some good news. I was an early adopter for the Callaway SC system and part of an internal monthly update. Positions were assigned and though I have not called and clarified I think im in position 10. This is based on numerous factors including date deposit was submitted, whether or not you already own your C8, and if it is a Coupe or HTC. Mine is the HTC so it may start production shortly after the Coupes because of the clearance issues with the top down.

First impressions of the C8 are mixed. Its hard to explain but it doesnt feel like a drivers car. Even with all the helper systems turned off I do not feel as connected to the road as with all my previous sports cars. However the car literally checks all the boxes I, and most sports car enthusiasts look for. On top of providing comfort beyond anything I ever imagined in said sports cars. That could be where the disconnect from the road is coming. The car is ballistic from 0-60 with the aide of launch control. Ive never owned a car on street tires I could get to hook up and pull like this one. Not even my AWD cars. The downside is anything over 70 I feel like I could get out and run faster. That will be solved sometime next year though!

filip00 · 10-18-2022, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

First impressions of the C8 are mixed. Its hard to explain but it doesnt feel like a drivers car. Even with all the helper systems turned off I do not feel as connected to the road as with all my previous sports cars. However the car literally checks all the boxes I, and most sports car enthusiasts look for. On top of providing comfort beyond anything I ever imagined in said sports cars. That could be where the disconnect from the road is coming. The car is ballistic from 0-60 with the aide of launch control. Ive never owned a car on street tires I could get to hook up and pull like this one. Not even my AWD cars. The downside is anything over 70 I feel like I could get out and run faster. That will be solved sometime next year though!

Not surprised by this at all. I have a simulator setup at home with Assetto Corsa and you can really easily tell how any of the cars in it are actually to drive IRL. Corvette is very much like various Ferraris - you've got loads of grip and it feels super planted, but you only ever experience these benefits of such cars if you're driving 120mph or faster. On normal speeds the car gives 0 feedback, 0 fun and is horrible to drive.
What I mean by this - let's say there's a slow corner that you can easily drift in a Z in second gear. In these cars you've got no chance. They will either have way too much grip, or you'll accelerate so quickly that you'll just fly out of the corner crashing. I can totally imagine what it's like to drive a C8 on the street and what you're saying. Sure, it's lightning fast and expensive and all other wows, but I don't for a moment think it can be as fun as Z unless we're driving 120+ mph. And in normal circumstances (i.e. not being on the track), the car is probably not fun at all.

Mr&Mrs · 10-18-2022, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by filip00

Not surprised by this at all. I have a simulator setup at home with Assetto Corsa and you can really easily tell how any of the cars in it are actually to drive IRL. Corvette is very much like various Ferraris - you've got loads of grip and it feels super planted, but you only ever experience these benefits of such cars if you're driving 120mph or faster. On normal speeds the car gives 0 feedback, 0 fun and is horrible to drive.
What I mean by this - let's say there's a slow corner that you can easily drift in a Z in second gear. In these cars you've got no chance. They will either have way too much grip, or you'll accelerate so quickly that you'll just fly out of the corner crashing. I can totally imagine what it's like to drive a C8 on the street and what you're saying. Sure, it's lightning fast and expensive and all other wows, but I don't for a moment think it can be as fun as Z unless we're driving 120+ mph. And in normal circumstances (i.e. not being on the track), the car is probably not fun at all.

Well I wont go as far as saying the car isnt fun under normal driving circumstances. At least for me it has been. It will definitely let loose in corners. Im not sure if the simulator allows it, but your able to pull in both paddles at any speed rev as high as you'd like then dump the clutches. At lower speeds you have no trouble getting sideways with this method. Your not building excess speed to cause the loss of control.

If my body still allowed it I would probably choose to drive the Z on most occasions over the C8 though for sure.

Mr&Mrs · 10-18-2022, 08:53 AM

Almost forgot I found this guy over on the C8 forums and he is amazing. Brian Manaco. I guess there is a chance hes already on this forum but I dont know. He crates personalized renders of your vehicles. So far Ive had him do the two Zs and the Vette because I had easy access to photos.

I will be sending him all my past cars and motorcycles though so I can immortalize them to the wall of my garage. Here is a sample of his work and some eye candy of the rides.

filip00 · 10-18-2022, 10:59 AM

Nah, don't get me wrong, I believe the car is loads of fun, but you know the old saying: It's much more fun to drive a slow car fast, than to drive a fast car slow. And I honestly believe that your C8 is one of those really fast cars that you can't actually let loose unless you're on the track. I mean that's not just a street car, it's a street legal racecar.

Mr&Mrs · 08-17-2023, 01:02 PM

So I will be rejoining the Z family (waiting to sign papers as we speak). Found a Z at basically MSRP from a dealership in Indiana. Funny that's where the Blue 370Z came from as well. I have missed the Z family and plan to do another great build with this one. Starting with either a Pandem or Liberty Walk body kit. They really make the car have the modern retro look I wish Nissan had done from the beginning. Mostly fixing the hideous front end.

Mr&Mrs · 08-23-2023, 03:50 PM

I have only one picture because everyone is taking sweet *** time shipping the car to me. Couple more fun facts including finding/buying two Z's from Indiana. It will be almost 1 year from the day I sold the last Z that this one arrives. The car has exactly 9 miles on it and both our prior Z's were 09's.

Mr&Mrs · 08-24-2023, 03:40 PM

Parts on the way!

1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake System
1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Radiator Air Guide
1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Engine Cover
1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Performance Sway Bar Set
- Include: Z1 Sway Bar End Links
1x 2023+ Nissan Z Stock Wheel Fitment Kit by Z1
- Height: Lowered
1x Swift Spec-R Lowering Springs - 2023+ Z (RZ34)
1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Aluminum Undershroud
- Finish: Anodized Black
1x Seibon 2023+ Nissan Z DA Style Carbon Fiber Spoiler
1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Strut Tower Brace
1x NISMO 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Door Mirror Covers
1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Baffled Oil Catch Can Kit
1x Q50 / Q60 VR30DDTT 3.0t Race Cats

Mr&Mrs · 08-25-2023, 05:48 PM

She is on the way!

Mr&Mrs · 08-26-2023, 10:59 AM

She’s already home, been cleaned, and a little drive. More pics to follow and a first impressions.

Not sure why they posted sideways. I am on my phone though might have messed something up.

Mr&Mrs · 08-26-2023, 02:39 PM

I feel like I was in the car all day and we only put 85 miles on it. Break in periods suuuuuck. First impressions are great. Though we haven’t went over 4k RPMs and 1/4 throttle, you can tell she wants to stretch her legs. There is just something about how this chassis delivers power that makes me smile. The front end feels a little floaty but I did notice the tires were over inflated. Correcting that should help a little. The exhaust is so quiet I thought they rolled it off of the truck. Strangely enough, the sound inside the cabin is pleasing. So from an engineering standpoint bravo. It will have to be upgraded ASAP though. That sound needs to be delivered to everyone. Haha

The interior feels like home having previously owned 370z’s. What some may consider minor updates, to me, really take it to a perfect level. I love that all the silver trim is now black chrome and though I would of liked color matching the interior stitching, the black is nice. It seems to have all the features I look for in a modern interior.

The exterior is so much better in person. I do not think I’ve ever experienced this same effect with another car. In photos I’ve always despised the front end. It looked like a clash of 3 different designs mashed into one. I’ve spent the last two weeks shopping for parts. A good portion of that time was deciding what I wanted to do with the front visually. It grew on me quite a bit during that time. Now seeing it in person I have no real complaints. It definitely needs something for my taste but it isn’t gut wrenching like I originally felt. The car is absolutely stunning up close. The pearl white has to be seen in person to truly appreciate.

Overall I can’t be happier. Some say the price is too high. I think 54k loaded is just about right for this car. Yeah it’s got reused parts but heck, if it’s not broke, don’t fix it! I’ve always loved Datsuns and feel like I have a reimagined one now. Enough blabber here are some pics by the local motocross track.

ZontheRocks · 08-27-2023, 05:30 AM

Looks good! Can’t wait to see some updates after your installs!

Falconquey · 08-27-2023, 09:15 AM

Beautiful Z! Love it in white!!

Mr&Mrs · 08-28-2023, 08:48 AM

Practically spent an entire day in the car. Burnt out most of the gas and filled it up. Took a couple quick pics on the way home. I have always despised socials but I've noticed forums are pretty slow. So my wife and a fellow Z member talked me into making some social accounts. If you want to continue following all the updates of the car, here is its instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecrew_tv/ I also made a youtube for install videos, twitter, and facebook. The latter two will probably just be duplicate photos to instagram. If you want the youtube let me know im not trying to look like a self promoting boob.

Edit: And of course I will occasionally post updates here!

Mr&Mrs · 08-30-2023, 10:01 PM

Boost Logic 3" Titanium Exhaust on the way!

10-18-2022, 08:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31942	So the new owner of the Z has been keeping me updated on the car and is active on social media. I do not use any social media, except forums I guess, so she sends me pics. The wife also shows me some of the stuff that's gets posted on IG and stuff like that. It has been fun to see the car enjoyed. I really neglected it from that perspective. Additional mods have been tasteful so far and based on her other Z im not too worried about the original vision from Dave and I going forward. Obviously want to stay in touch and asked to be offered the chance to purchase the car back if she ever sells it. Who knows what time holds and if given the opportunity to get the car back I may take it. The C8 so far has been an unreliable mess and I cant find a dealership willing to go the extra mile that I give my cars. Currently it has been sitting at Stingray Chevrolet waiting on a back ordered part for 2+ weeks and it isnt even the first time its been there for the issue. They also refuse to do a simple transmission flush and filter change that could help eliminate known transmission failures countless people have had. Reason: The car isnt showing any codes.....Yeah that's the point by then its to late! I am currently working with GM to find a dealership near me that will do the job as countless others have had it done on the C8 forums. Some good news. I was an early adopter for the Callaway SC system and part of an internal monthly update. Positions were assigned and though I have not called and clarified I think im in position 10. This is based on numerous factors including date deposit was submitted, whether or not you already own your C8, and if it is a Coupe or HTC. Mine is the HTC so it may start production shortly after the Coupes because of the clearance issues with the top down. First impressions of the C8 are mixed. Its hard to explain but it doesnt feel like a drivers car. Even with all the helper systems turned off I do not feel as connected to the road as with all my previous sports cars. However the car literally checks all the boxes I, and most sports car enthusiasts look for. On top of providing comfort beyond anything I ever imagined in said sports cars. That could be where the disconnect from the road is coming. The car is ballistic from 0-60 with the aide of launch control. Ive never owned a car on street tires I could get to hook up and pull like this one. Not even my AWD cars. The downside is anything over 70 I feel like I could get out and run faster. That will be solved sometime next year though! __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

08-17-2023, 01:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31942	So I will be rejoining the Z family (waiting to sign papers as we speak). Found a Z at basically MSRP from a dealership in Indiana. Funny that's where the Blue 370Z came from as well. I have missed the Z family and plan to do another great build with this one. Starting with either a Pandem or Liberty Walk body kit. They really make the car have the modern retro look I wish Nissan had done from the beginning. Mostly fixing the hideous front end. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

08-24-2023, 03:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31942	Parts on the way! 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake System 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Radiator Air Guide 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Engine Cover 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Performance Sway Bar Set - Include: Z1 Sway Bar End Links 1x 2023+ Nissan Z Stock Wheel Fitment Kit by Z1 - Height: Lowered 1x Swift Spec-R Lowering Springs - 2023+ Z (RZ34) 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Aluminum Undershroud - Finish: Anodized Black 1x Seibon 2023+ Nissan Z DA Style Carbon Fiber Spoiler 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Strut Tower Brace 1x NISMO 2023+ Nissan Z Carbon Fiber Door Mirror Covers 1x Z1 2023+ Nissan Z Baffled Oil Catch Can Kit 1x Q50 / Q60 VR30DDTT 3.0t Race Cats __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

08-27-2023, 05:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
ZontheRocks Track Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Central Florida Posts: 960 Drives: 2016 Nissan PW 370Z Rep Power: 34537	Looks good! Can’t wait to see some updates after your installs! __________________ '16 Pearl White Sport \| Stillen Gen. 3 \| Motordyne ART \| Motordyne Shockwave \| ZSpeed \| Powertrix \| EVO-R \| Aeroworkz \| Nismo \| Z1 \| EcuTek \| Tuned by Seb @ SpecialtyZ

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10-18-2022, 10:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
filip00 Track Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: slovenia Posts: 596 Drives: 370z pack Rep Power: 125429	Nah, don't get me wrong, I believe the car is loads of fun, but you know the old saying: It's much more fun to drive a slow car fast, than to drive a fast car slow. And I honestly believe that your C8 is one of those really fast cars that you can't actually let loose unless you're on the track. I mean that's not just a street car, it's a street legal racecar.

08-27-2023, 09:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
Falconquey Track Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: PacNW Posts: 563 Drives: Bitchin' 15 Z Rep Power: 2246926	Beautiful Z! Love it in white!!

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