JLarson's build thread

jchammond · 06-23-2018, 04:24 AM

On old school type hydraulic clutches; You loosen the bleeder screw & have someone mash the clutch & then tighten the bleeder screw...before they let clutch backup.
Unlike brakes-as you pump them up & loosen while someone is holding pedal.

These Z clutch's may be totally different than one's i've done in the past though.

JLarson · 06-23-2018, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond

On old school type hydraulic clutches; You loosen the bleeder screw & have someone mash the clutch & then tighten the bleeder screw...before they let clutch backup.
Unlike brakes-as you pump them up & loosen while someone is holding pedal.

These Z clutch's may be totally different than one's i've done in the past though.

We did try that. Fortunately, I'm tied in with a local Z enthusiast group, and they're giving me a hand this next week! I'll let you know how it goes.

JARblue · 06-23-2018, 09:20 AM

If you know the master is bled, a good option is to just gravity bleed the rest. Fill up the reservoir, open the bleeder valve, and let the fluid push the air out via gravity. As already mentioned, a clear tube can help you see the air bubbles coming out of the bleeder valve. Keep an eye on the reservoir and close the bleeder valve after the air bubbles stop and fluid drains smoothly.

onzedge · 06-24-2018, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

If you know the master is bled, a good option is to just gravity bleed the rest. Fill up the reservoir, open the bleeder valve, and let the fluid push the air out via gravity. As already mentioned, a clear tube can help you see the air bubbles coming out of the bleeder valve. Keep an eye on the reservoir and close the bleeder valve after the air bubbles stop and fluid drains smoothly.

onzedge · 06-24-2018, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson

We did try that. Fortunately, I'm tied in with a local Z enthusiast group, and they're giving me a hand this next week! I'll let you know how it goes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

If you know the master is bled, a good option is to just gravity bleed the rest. Fill up the reservoir, open the bleeder valve, and let the fluid push the air out via gravity. As already mentioned, a clear tube can help you see the air bubbles coming out of the bleeder valve. Keep an eye on the reservoir and close the bleeder valve after the air bubbles stop and fluid drains smoothly.

I use a Mityvac for all hydraulic bleeding. It does a good job and you do not need a second person pumping pedals and getting confused about the terms "up", "down" or "hold".

https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MITMV...ords=MITMV8500

ramoszx12r · 06-24-2018, 08:54 AM

I never have any problem, I always use vac pump.

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge

I use a Mityvac for all hydraulic bleeding. It does a good job and you do not need a second person pumping pedals and getting confused about the terms "up", "down" or "hold".

https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-MITMV...ords=MITMV8500

onzedge · 06-24-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r

I never have any problem, I always use vac pump.

Rusty · 06-24-2018, 05:00 PM

I have run into problems with a vac pump. Ended up using a pressure bleeder.

Spooler · 06-27-2018, 09:34 PM

Post up here if you still have issues. The last thing to do is adjust the length of the rod going into the Master Cylinder.

JLarson · 06-28-2018, 07:16 AM

Quick update: So I never did get the clutch "properly" bled. I did get it so that I could move the car into gear, albeit poorly. My attempts to bleed it ended last Thursday around this time.

Basically, I realized the z1 flywheel is not for me. It's obnoxiously loud, and that chatter really isn't a joke. I guess I should clarify - for me, I could deal with it. My wife absolutely would not.

I reached out to RT Tuning first, and they didn't get back to me; talked to my local enthusiast group, VQ Philly, and got a recommendation through them. Sent a few emails, good bit of research. Final decision is I'm swapping the Z1 clutch setup for the South Bend Quiet Disk from Zspeed, and the CMAK setup. The CMAK and flywheel arrived yesterday, friction disk and pressure plate should be in today. Z is already at the garage, and I'll be dropping the materials off today - fingers crossed, it should be done tomorrow. The proprietor has bled quite a few of these clutches without issue, and will walk me through it so that I know what I did incorrectly.

Thanks again everyone for your support!

madwi · 06-28-2018, 07:19 AM

Sounds like a good game plan. I too ended up buying the Zspeed flywheel with quiet disc + CMAK

JARblue · 06-28-2018, 07:32 AM

I just asked Joe for the lightest and loudest flywheel he's got. He said 17 lbs but I know there's a 14 lb one floating around out there

JLarson · 06-28-2018, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

I just asked Joe for the lightest and loudest flywheel he's got. He said 17 lbs but I know there's a 14 lb one floating around out there

Haha a bold move!

Rusty · 06-28-2018, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

I just asked Joe for the lightest and loudest flywheel he's got. He said 17 lbs but I know there's a 14 lb one floating around out there

Yeah, there is a 14 pounder.

JLarson · 07-03-2018, 06:48 AM

Update with the happy ending: car is back and running great! I'll follow this with 2 other posts, the first entitled "how not to install your flywheel" and the 2nd as a review of the South Bend Stage 3 setup + quiet disk + CMAK.

06-23-2018, 04:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	On old school type hydraulic clutches; You loosen the bleeder screw & have someone mash the clutch & then tighten the bleeder screw...before they let clutch backup. Unlike brakes-as you pump them up & loosen while someone is holding pedal. These Z clutch's may be totally different than one's i've done in the past though. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

06-23-2018, 09:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	If you know the master is bled, a good option is to just gravity bleed the rest. Fill up the reservoir, open the bleeder valve, and let the fluid push the air out via gravity. As already mentioned, a clear tube can help you see the air bubbles coming out of the bleeder valve. Keep an eye on the reservoir and close the bleeder valve after the air bubbles stop and fluid drains smoothly. JLarson likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

06-24-2018, 05:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,494 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I have run into problems with a vac pump. Ended up using a pressure bleeder. Spooler likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

06-28-2018, 07:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
JLarson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Media, PA Posts: 4,079 Drives: 14 Nissan 370z MR M6 Rep Power: 2684371	Quick update: So I never did get the clutch "properly" bled. I did get it so that I could move the car into gear, albeit poorly. My attempts to bleed it ended last Thursday around this time. Basically, I realized the z1 flywheel is not for me. It's obnoxiously loud, and that chatter really isn't a joke. I guess I should clarify - for me, I could deal with it. My wife absolutely would not. I reached out to RT Tuning first, and they didn't get back to me; talked to my local enthusiast group, VQ Philly, and got a recommendation through them. Sent a few emails, good bit of research. Final decision is I'm swapping the Z1 clutch setup for the South Bend Quiet Disk from Zspeed, and the CMAK setup. The CMAK and flywheel arrived yesterday, friction disk and pressure plate should be in today. Z is already at the garage, and I'll be dropping the materials off today - fingers crossed, it should be done tomorrow. The proprietor has bled quite a few of these clutches without issue, and will walk me through it so that I know what I did incorrectly. Thanks again everyone for your support! onzedge, JARblue, Rusty and 4 others like this. __________________ 2014 370z Touring Sport Magma Red MT // BP Single Turbo 6467 // 63mm TB's // Z1 Ported Upper Mani // RJM Pedal // Zspeed Stage 3 Clutch // 526 WHP, 451 WTQ 2006 350z (Sold) // 1990 300zx (Sold) // 1985 300zx 2+2 (Sold)

06-28-2018, 07:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
madwi A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Michigan Posts: 31,410 Drives: Granma red Z Rep Power: 2684429	Sounds like a good game plan. I too ended up buying the Zspeed flywheel with quiet disc + CMAK JLarson likes this.

06-27-2018, 09:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,111 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	Post up here if you still have issues. The last thing to do is adjust the length of the rod going into the Master Cylinder.

06-28-2018, 07:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 44 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684441	I just asked Joe for the lightest and loudest flywheel he's got. He said 17 lbs but I know there's a 14 lb one floating around out there cv129, Baronsmokes and JLarson like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

07-03-2018, 06:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
JLarson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Media, PA Posts: 4,079 Drives: 14 Nissan 370z MR M6 Rep Power: 2684371	Update with the happy ending: car is back and running great! I'll follow this with 2 other posts, the first entitled "how not to install your flywheel" and the 2nd as a review of the South Bend Stage 3 setup + quiet disk + CMAK. JARblue, cv129, Hotrodz and 3 others like this. __________________ 2014 370z Touring Sport Magma Red MT // BP Single Turbo 6467 // 63mm TB's // Z1 Ported Upper Mani // RJM Pedal // Zspeed Stage 3 Clutch // 526 WHP, 451 WTQ 2006 350z (Sold) // 1990 300zx (Sold) // 1985 300zx 2+2 (Sold)

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