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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs That's a good question I will research it some today. All I know is that it does not come with it, and you will probably want

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Old 06-14-2013, 05:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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That's a good question I will research it some today. All I know is that it does not come with it, and you will probably want it, which brings the PS4's price to the same as the Xbox One. If you want to be technical about it.
I do not want it, which is why I resent the fact that Microsoft is packaging it with Xbox One and charging for it.
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I guess you have to be into the home automation side of things to appreciate where they want to go with the Kinect. It is creepy but cool at the same time. I can walk in the house take my keys/wallet/phone etc. to the kitchen when I get home from work. Simultaneously I can say Xbox "On", "NetFlix", possibly even "Bob's Burgers" and by the time I get back to the viewing room my shows going.

Not to mention never having to look for the remote! Lol

Someone else mentioned if the government/microsoft wants to listen in on us they are going to do it anyway if they already are not (cell phones).

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No, I understand where they want to go with it, and I don't think the value is worth the extra cost and the camera/mic that are constantly on in my home.

It's one thing for a government entity to be doing that possibly. I have no control over them.

But I don't have to, as a private consumer, welcome Microsoft into my home to do the same.

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I guess you have to be into the home automation side of things to appreciate where they want to go with the Kinect. It is creepy but cool at the same time. I can walk in the house take my keys/wallet/phone etc. to the kitchen when I get home from work. Simultaneously I can say Xbox "On", "NetFlix", possibly even "Bob's Burgers" and by the time I get back to the viewing room my shows going.

Not to mention never having to look for the remote! Lol

Someone else mentioned if the government/microsoft wants to listen in on us they are going to do it anyway if they already are not (cell phones).
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What OS are you running right now? Someones been watching you as long as you have had a PC Lets just embrace we are all dirty voyers!

Im just messing with you I understand your concerns thats why I made this thread.
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What OS are you running right now? Someones been watching you as long as you have had a PC Lets just embrace we are all dirty voyers!

Im just messing with you I understand your concerns thats why I made this thread.
And I'm not saying that Sony is any better, because I don't know if they plan to do the same thing.

I'm just saying that with Microsoft's decisions to require an active camera and mic in your living room, coupled with a necessary internet connection, then added to the idea of intrusive DRM, even if most of it is tied to game publishers...

Has soured me on the Xbox One. If it comes out that Sony requires the same stuff, I just won't buy the next generation of console.
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I cant wait to get the PS4.. thanks for the info Mr&Mrs.
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DRM
DRM when implemented in a very heavy-handed or ridiculous way doesn't work. It pisses people off, it gets in the way, it causes issues, or introduces new requirements for the user. I still refuse to use any "DRM" that has to have a special installer to run (I'm looking at the home video/digital copy industry on that one) whenever I can.

There are ways to end up with DRM, for instance things like Steam. It wasn't until Skyrim being Steam-required that finally made me cave in on Steam and sign up. But being on that platform more or less puts me in the same position as if I had DRM in all my games. Slow boil...

Moving toward digital gaming that is stored on some server on the Internet basically ends up being DRM without the baggage. I just don't think the DRM argument ends up being very strong because of this. I think "always online" arguments have more weight.

I'm just anti-DRM. I've not sold any games since I got $2 for my old NES games back in 1992 and walked away as a child feeling like I got stolen from. I don't trade them around or lend out games either; pretty much all of my friends can afford their own. And I've not rented a game since, well, probably high school. For me (as a computer security/privacy interested party) it's the principle. It's why I'm one of those strange people who doesn't use iTunes and still has a collection of mp3s on local disks...

Always-on eavesdropping/automation
This bugs me as well, but it's hard to really fight heavily against automation. The always on mic/camera, though, it a quality-of-life concern to me. If I wanted even the thought of a Truman Show-esque lifestyle, I'd just do it. The downside is if I *ever* want to walk into a room and say "Xbox netflix," then it *needs* to be listening all the time. At the very least, I trust Microsoft than other services that leverage these capabilities for free and use *me* as the product for them to make money.

Here's a quote I pulled from some news article that I think fits my feelings on gaming: "I remember when video games were about getting Mario to save the princess and, when you were done, the console would leave you the hell alone."

It's coming...soon we'll have 4 entire walls called Xbox Four and we'll be in Fahrenheit 451's world.
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Yep. My skills peaked with the first SF2 and MK2. It was downhill from there.
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Dude thaty ultra combo was fvcking awesome... thats what you call getting your azz handed to you! hahaha
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yeah I will be picking this up when i get my xbox. I havent touched it since i think i had it for N64 way back in the day. wasnt it the one with the gold cartridge? Think i played with Spinal and cinder mostly.I remember glacier had that uppercut out of the ground and i know orchid was really cheap.. thats about all i remember
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I could never do that in the arcade. I'd drop them all day on my buddy on the snes, go back to the arcade and get beat down ruthlessly.
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thats what i loved bro lol i was exactly the same... id be like "im f*cking ready" and get my a$$ handed to me by the same kid in the arcade.... that same kid was the son of the owner of the arcade
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dude that video was pretty sweet dude....

i hope they bring back most of the oldskool characters....

the greatest thing i love about that game is that all of the characters kicked ***.... can you guys imagine fulgore, turning into that big *** machine gun and shooting the crap outa you as a fatality

sorry about derailling the thread ;p
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I had friends huge into the fighter games, one of them sent me this when he was there. Not him recording but he saw it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_5BHmaSI4
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both consoles are not home runs. sony sh*t on microsoft at e3, but i think it's all a kneejerk reaction. i'm not going to buy anything first run, but eventually i will probably pony up for an xbox one.

with that said, no game except for mirrors edge 2 really interested me, so i'm in no rush. i'd much rather keep playing fifa, dead or alive, or whatever i'm in the mood for.

for xbox 360 - my original model finally died a few months ago. i think the disk drive went bad, because i can still play things off of the hard drive, and i use hbo go through the xbox 360. i'm debating opening it up and replacing the disk drive, but heard it was a PITA.
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