Next Generation Gaming Systems

Mr&Mrs · 07-12-2013, 02:01 AM

I found this information and was excited at first, but the more I read, the more questions I have. Maybe some of you can help me figure it out.

Microsoft is taking advanced measures to prevent cheating on the Xbox One network. With these measures the game experience for decent players will be improved.

In an interview with OXM (Official Xbox Magazine), Mike Lavin, senior product manager at Microsoft states that the new reputation-system together with the cloud, will greatly enhance the game experience for players who play by the book.

The reputationsystem of the Xbone, that is taking over from the five-star system that is used on the Xbox 360, gives Microsoft the opportunity to localize players who don’t behave properly. “If a small percentage of our gaming population is making the gaming experience of other gamers terrible, then we should be able to track those players”

Lavin explains that Microsoft hopes that more players will play online and communicate with strangers. This requires a community with decent people, and not people who scream and yell all the time.

The new reputation will link people who behave badly to people who also behave badly. The same goes for people who behave properly, those people will be linked to decently behaving people.

Does anyone have expierence with this kind of system or know more about it?

What is to keep a group of friends or even a lobby from all giving bad feedback to a player for being really good at the game? Or a young kid....I have been in lobbys where a young kid just tries to say hi, and everyone starts being rude to them, just because they are a kid.

How will they monitor these ratings or feedback scores? I do not see how it is possible for it to be fair. I would hate to end up playing with true jerks just because I owned a lobby in COD for a few games.

I dunno I see alot of abuse coming from this system.

Jordo! · 07-12-2013, 02:37 AM

I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4.

My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics).

So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price.

I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me.

Corona370z · 07-12-2013, 02:57 AM

Myself. I'll be getting both sytems after a few months of the release. I have no issues waiting as I am expecting, like everything else, that there will be some issues with first batch and mass release. One game I can't wait to play is the new Metal Gear

theDreamer · 07-12-2013, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

I found this information and was excited at first, but the more I read, the more questions I have. Maybe some of you can help me figure it out.

Microsoft is taking advanced measures to prevent cheating on the Xbox One network. With these measures the game experience for decent players will be improved.

In an interview with OXM (Official Xbox Magazine), Mike Lavin, senior product manager at Microsoft states that the new reputation-system together with the cloud, will greatly enhance the game experience for players who play by the book.

The reputationsystem of the Xbone, that is taking over from the five-star system that is used on the Xbox 360, gives Microsoft the opportunity to localize players who don’t behave properly. “If a small percentage of our gaming population is making the gaming experience of other gamers terrible, then we should be able to track those players”

Lavin explains that Microsoft hopes that more players will play online and communicate with strangers. This requires a community with decent people, and not people who scream and yell all the time.

The new reputation will link people who behave badly to people who also behave badly. The same goes for people who behave properly, those people will be linked to decently behaving people.

Does anyone have expierence with this kind of system or know more about it?

What is to keep a group of friends or even a lobby from all giving bad feedback to a player for being really good at the game? Or a young kid....I have been in lobbys where a young kid just tries to say hi, and everyone starts being rude to them, just because they are a kid.

How will they monitor these ratings or feedback scores? I do not see how it is possible for it to be fair. I would hate to end up playing with true jerks just because I owned a lobby in COD for a few games.

I dunno I see alot of abuse coming from this system.

First...I can see the jokes coming:
Xbone ->

Second, if they run the rep correctly, they can work out these random anomalies. Meaning if an entire room puts negative rep on one person that gets flagged, or a similar group that always plays together down votes anyone on their team that is not a 'normal.' They can track that information also and pull it into the equation to help control this from happening.

XiP · 07-12-2013, 06:51 AM

too lazy to read back 19 pages

can someone give me a summary so far and pros/cons of each?

Dzel · 07-12-2013, 08:32 AM

In my opinion it's an even fight. I'm personally going to wait a year or so and see what people say after they've had their hands on the consoles.

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The Dimer · 07-12-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzel

In my opinion it's an even fight. I'm personally going to wait a year or so and see what people say after they've had their hands on the consoles.

Sent with TapAhoe

I agree. I think it'll ultimately come down to exclusive games and online experience/performance. Say what you want about the franchise, but I'm buying a Xbox One because of Halo, especially since Destiny is going to come out for both consoles. The extra features are a just bonus that truth be told, I probably wont even take advantage of that much.

I have no doubt that I'll end up buying a PS4 as well, because they have exclusive games I want to play too, but it'll probably be after it comes down in price a bit.

Jordo! · 07-13-2013, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XiP

too lazy to read back 19 pages

can someone give me a summary so far and pros/cons of each?

There's links to latest info on each and comparisons on first page of thread

jburke26 · 07-23-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4.

My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics).

So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price.

I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me.

I totally agree! I have seen nothing that is totally ground breaking and they have had 10 YEARS to develop these systems. I would love to see some new technology in the systems, even if it drives up the cost. At least give us the option for better models..

Options I would like to see...

-SSD Hard Drive (I am replacing the HD with a SSD on day one)
-4K Res for Gaming (PS4 only has it for video/picture viewing. This is obviously not a big deal now.)
-3rd party software allowed (XBMC would be sick!)
-Multi Display Support (Want to play GT and Forza over three monitors in my cockpit)

theDreamer · 07-23-2013, 10:28 AM

I would agree it would be great to have the most up to date tech, but also remember that most of this tech is just computer hardware. It is rebuilt to run their games, OS, etc at an optimized level and cheap to mass produce. Also, most of the hardware is picked 3 years in advance and begins testing.

Chuck33079 · 07-23-2013, 10:29 AM

I may have changed my thoughts on an Ouya. A buddy of mine bought one and is playing Tecmo Super Bowl with modern NCAA rosters. I must own this.

theDreamer · 07-23-2013, 10:31 AM

Go play on it for awhile and report back.

Chuck33079 · 07-23-2013, 10:34 AM

Wish I could. He's not local.

4r3s · 07-23-2013, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jburke26

I totally agree! I have seen nothing that is totally ground breaking and they have had 10 YEARS to develop these systems. I would love to see some new technology in the systems, even if it drives up the cost. At least give us the option for better models..

Options I would like to see...

-SSD Hard Drive (I am replacing the HD with a SSD on day one)
-4K Res for Gaming (PS4 only has it for video/picture viewing. This is obviously not a big deal now.)
-3rd party software allowed (XBMC would be sick!)
-Multi Display Support (Want to play GT and Forza over three monitors in my cockpit)

buy a computer

jburke26 · 07-23-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

buy a computer

Oh yeah! I am mainly a PC Gamer. I just have a few buddies that refuse to join me. So I still have to keep a console around.

View Poll Results: Which System Will You Be Choosing?
Xbox One Hands Down	20	20.00%
PS4 Hands Down	49	49.00%
Xbox One by a Smidge	10	10.00%
PS4 by a Smidge	3	3.00%
Im Going to Wait for Consumer Reviews	11	11.00%
My Xbox 360 or PS3 is all I Need	7	7.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

07-12-2013, 02:01 AM	#271 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,192 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 15161	I found this information and was excited at first, but the more I read, the more questions I have. Maybe some of you can help me figure it out. Microsoft is taking advanced measures to prevent cheating on the Xbox One network. With these measures the game experience for decent players will be improved. In an interview with OXM (Official Xbox Magazine), Mike Lavin, senior product manager at Microsoft states that the new reputation-system together with the cloud, will greatly enhance the game experience for players who play by the book. The reputationsystem of the Xbone, that is taking over from the five-star system that is used on the Xbox 360, gives Microsoft the opportunity to localize players who don’t behave properly. “If a small percentage of our gaming population is making the gaming experience of other gamers terrible, then we should be able to track those players” Lavin explains that Microsoft hopes that more players will play online and communicate with strangers. This requires a community with decent people, and not people who scream and yell all the time. The new reputation will link people who behave badly to people who also behave badly. The same goes for people who behave properly, those people will be linked to decently behaving people. Does anyone have expierence with this kind of system or know more about it? What is to keep a group of friends or even a lobby from all giving bad feedback to a player for being really good at the game? Or a young kid....I have been in lobbys where a young kid just tries to say hi, and everyone starts being rude to them, just because they are a kid. How will they monitor these ratings or feedback scores? I do not see how it is possible for it to be fair. I would hate to end up playing with true jerks just because I owned a lobby in COD for a few games. I dunno I see alot of abuse coming from this system. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

07-12-2013, 02:37 AM	#272 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4. My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics). So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price. I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me. Mr&Mrs and jburke26 like this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 07-12-2013 at 02:39 AM.

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07-12-2013, 06:51 AM	#275 (permalink)
XiP A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: no clipping Posts: 11,096 Drives: ↑ ↓ Rep Power: 533	too lazy to read back 19 pages can someone give me a summary so far and pros/cons of each? __________________ I <3 Frost!!!

07-12-2013, 08:32 AM	#276 (permalink)
Dzel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 3,884 Drives: 11 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 22	In my opinion it's an even fight. I'm personally going to wait a year or so and see what people say after they've had their hands on the consoles. Sent with TapAhoe Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ 10secWS6 IF YOU CAN'T SWING IT THEN DON'T BRING IT! Check out Domestic Performance C.C.

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I may have changed my thoughts on an Ouya. A buddy of mine bought one and is playing Tecmo Super Bowl with modern NCAA rosters. I must own this. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent Last edited by Chuck33079; 07-23-2013 at 10:34 AM.

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theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Go play on it for awhile and report back. Mr&Mrs likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Wish I could. He's not local. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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