Next Generation Gaming Systems

The Dimer · 07-10-2013, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

Yeah, if the Ouya can continue to survive, the experience will really help them. Especially as they fix issues like with their somewhat awful controller. They have a userbase and development happening; but it's a ball that once it starts to slow down, will kill itself. They'll do well to pay for some content developers for a while. There's a reason all gaming consoles have either exclusives or first party titles.

I got wrapped up in the idea and got in on the kickstarter for towards the end of it. I was one of the last people to get their console (barely had it for a month). Luckily they were able to work the manufacturing bugs out so my controllers don't suffer from any of the sticking button issues.

In the month or so I've had it, I've only played it 2-3 times. Now that's mostly because I just moved into a new place right after I got it, I've only turned on my 360 once.

It's a nice idea and it's a pretty fun time killer, but they desperately need to get developers on board and start making some games. I thought I was going to have access to all the games I had purchased on my phone (GTA3, Need for Speed, etc) but was sorely mistaken. That being said I have found several fun games and lost track of time playing them.

My biggest gripe is the free to try thing. I get that you just give away games for free and expect developers to jump on board, but there's very few things more annoying in a video game than getting through level 3 and being redirected to a "Buy the full version to continue" screen.

eastwest2300 · 07-10-2013, 12:06 PM

where'd you hear it'd be $60 a year?

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

where'd you hear it'd be $60 a year?

Playstation plus is something you can purchase now. Its $5 a month or $50 a year. My bad. i meant to write $50. I don't know if it will increase. I did read $5 a month though.

ZMan8 · 07-10-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Playstation plus is something you can purchase now. Its $5 a month or $50 a year. My bad. i meant to write $50. I don't know if it will increase. I did read $5 a month though.

Actually with the discounts you get on games and free perks, it's not too bad at $5 a month. They run special sales often where you can get a 2-3 year old game completely free (borderlands, Resident Evil 5 were among those from past years).

Mr&Mrs · 07-10-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Playstation plus is something you can purchase now. Its $5 a month or $50 a year. My bad. i meant to write $50. I don't know if it will increase. I did read $5 a month though.

Last I checked there were 12 months in a year.

You were correct the first time if it is 5 bucks a month.

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Originally Posted by The Dimer

I got wrapped up in the idea and got in on the kickstarter for towards the end of it. I was one of the last people to get their console (barely had it for a month). Luckily they were able to work the manufacturing bugs out so my controllers don't suffer from any of the sticking button issues.

In the month or so I've had it, I've only played it 2-3 times. Now that's mostly because I just moved into a new place right after I got it, I've only turned on my 360 once.

It's a nice idea and it's a pretty fun time killer, but they desperately need to get developers on board and start making some games. I thought I was going to have access to all the games I had purchased on my phone (GTA3, Need for Speed, etc) but was sorely mistaken. That being said I have found several fun games and lost track of time playing them.

My biggest gripe is the free to try thing. I get that you just give away games for free and expect developers to jump on board, but there's very few things more annoying in a video game than getting through level 3 and being redirected to a "Buy the full version to continue" screen.

This is part of my major gripe and why I said some of the things I did in previous posts. I do not want these style games on my Xbox or Playstation!

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

Last I checked there were 12 months in a year.

You were correct the first time if it is 5 bucks a month.

This is part of my major gripe and why I said some of the things I did in previous posts. I do not want these style games on my Xbox or Playstation!

yeah but if you pay the year upfront, i they discount you $10. Hopefully they'll do the same for PS4.

UPDATE
It's $20 a year for a playstation network card. That's what the PS3 gets free and will keep getting for free. Then it's $50 a year for a playstation plus card. So you will have to pay $20 ANNUALLY for internet access. And another $50 a year if you want the full plus experience.

So in one way, you can be a little happier in the sense online access is not $5 a month but $20 a year. But it's still upsetting because it's free in the PS3, why pay on the 4? Also to get the fullest experience from playstation. It will total out to $70 annually.

Me, im not angry but the news isn't welcoming either.

theDreamer · 07-10-2013, 12:45 PM

I hate freemium.
I would rather have a free to try (full version) but you are only able to play for 10-20 minutes and then decide, so you can get past the first few levels and try it. On this list also includes the free games that let you play forever but unless you buy add ons or feature packs you are not going very far.

Mr&Mrs · 07-12-2013, 02:01 AM

I found this information and was excited at first, but the more I read, the more questions I have. Maybe some of you can help me figure it out.

Microsoft is taking advanced measures to prevent cheating on the Xbox One network. With these measures the game experience for decent players will be improved.

In an interview with OXM (Official Xbox Magazine), Mike Lavin, senior product manager at Microsoft states that the new reputation-system together with the cloud, will greatly enhance the game experience for players who play by the book.

The reputationsystem of the Xbone, that is taking over from the five-star system that is used on the Xbox 360, gives Microsoft the opportunity to localize players who don’t behave properly. “If a small percentage of our gaming population is making the gaming experience of other gamers terrible, then we should be able to track those players”

Lavin explains that Microsoft hopes that more players will play online and communicate with strangers. This requires a community with decent people, and not people who scream and yell all the time.

The new reputation will link people who behave badly to people who also behave badly. The same goes for people who behave properly, those people will be linked to decently behaving people.

Does anyone have expierence with this kind of system or know more about it?

What is to keep a group of friends or even a lobby from all giving bad feedback to a player for being really good at the game? Or a young kid....I have been in lobbys where a young kid just tries to say hi, and everyone starts being rude to them, just because they are a kid.

How will they monitor these ratings or feedback scores? I do not see how it is possible for it to be fair. I would hate to end up playing with true jerks just because I owned a lobby in COD for a few games.

I dunno I see alot of abuse coming from this system.

theDreamer · 07-12-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

I found this information and was excited at first, but the more I read, the more questions I have. Maybe some of you can help me figure it out.

Microsoft is taking advanced measures to prevent cheating on the Xbox One network. With these measures the game experience for decent players will be improved.

In an interview with OXM (Official Xbox Magazine), Mike Lavin, senior product manager at Microsoft states that the new reputation-system together with the cloud, will greatly enhance the game experience for players who play by the book.

The reputationsystem of the Xbone, that is taking over from the five-star system that is used on the Xbox 360, gives Microsoft the opportunity to localize players who don’t behave properly. “If a small percentage of our gaming population is making the gaming experience of other gamers terrible, then we should be able to track those players”

Lavin explains that Microsoft hopes that more players will play online and communicate with strangers. This requires a community with decent people, and not people who scream and yell all the time.

The new reputation will link people who behave badly to people who also behave badly. The same goes for people who behave properly, those people will be linked to decently behaving people.

Does anyone have expierence with this kind of system or know more about it?

What is to keep a group of friends or even a lobby from all giving bad feedback to a player for being really good at the game? Or a young kid....I have been in lobbys where a young kid just tries to say hi, and everyone starts being rude to them, just because they are a kid.

How will they monitor these ratings or feedback scores? I do not see how it is possible for it to be fair. I would hate to end up playing with true jerks just because I owned a lobby in COD for a few games.

I dunno I see alot of abuse coming from this system.

First...I can see the jokes coming:
Xbone ->

Second, if they run the rep correctly, they can work out these random anomalies. Meaning if an entire room puts negative rep on one person that gets flagged, or a similar group that always plays together down votes anyone on their team that is not a 'normal.' They can track that information also and pull it into the equation to help control this from happening.

Jordo! · 07-12-2013, 02:37 AM

I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4.

My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics).

So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price.

I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me.

jburke26 · 07-23-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4.

My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics).

So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price.

I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me.

I totally agree! I have seen nothing that is totally ground breaking and they have had 10 YEARS to develop these systems. I would love to see some new technology in the systems, even if it drives up the cost. At least give us the option for better models..

Options I would like to see...

-SSD Hard Drive (I am replacing the HD with a SSD on day one)
-4K Res for Gaming (PS4 only has it for video/picture viewing. This is obviously not a big deal now.)
-3rd party software allowed (XBMC would be sick!)
-Multi Display Support (Want to play GT and Forza over three monitors in my cockpit)

4r3s · 07-23-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jburke26

I totally agree! I have seen nothing that is totally ground breaking and they have had 10 YEARS to develop these systems. I would love to see some new technology in the systems, even if it drives up the cost. At least give us the option for better models..

Options I would like to see...

-SSD Hard Drive (I am replacing the HD with a SSD on day one)
-4K Res for Gaming (PS4 only has it for video/picture viewing. This is obviously not a big deal now.)
-3rd party software allowed (XBMC would be sick!)
-Multi Display Support (Want to play GT and Forza over three monitors in my cockpit)

buy a computer

jburke26 · 07-23-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

buy a computer

Oh yeah! I am mainly a PC Gamer. I just have a few buddies that refuse to join me. So I still have to keep a console around.

4r3s · 07-24-2013, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jburke26

Oh yeah! I am mainly a PC Gamer. I just have a few buddies that refuse to join me. So I still have to keep a console around.

haha yeah okay this makes more sense now, I'm in a similar boat.

FortuneLSX-TT · 07-25-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4.

My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics).

So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price.

I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me.

I think most launch games usually pale compared to the games at the end of a console's life cycle. I think part of it is just the learning curve for the new hardware and learning how to optimize it. The second part is probably just trying to rush a game out for launch.
I agree, nothing must have at launch. I just pre-order because I hate the time wasted looking for anything new. Destiny is what I'm waiting for and I want to be ready to play when it comes out and not looking for a console

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Originally Posted by jburke26

I totally agree! I have seen nothing that is totally ground breaking and they have had 10 YEARS to develop these systems. I would love to see some new technology in the systems, even if it drives up the cost. At least give us the option for better models..

Options I would like to see...

-SSD Hard Drive (I am replacing the HD with a SSD on day one)
-4K Res for Gaming (PS4 only has it for video/picture viewing. This is obviously not a big deal now.)
-3rd party software allowed (XBMC would be sick!)
-Multi Display Support (Want to play GT and Forza over three monitors in my cockpit)

Sony tried adding everything people wanted before, it drove the price up too much and not everyone was willing to pay that much. My new PS3 pales compared to my launch PS3. At least you can swap the HD out on the PS4. I would of loved 4k for gaming, it would of given me a reason to buy a 4k tv lol. As you said, it's not that big of a deal now because the bump in specs required to support 4k gaming on disc space, video, and processor would of been huge and only a few people would of been able to take advantage of it. Sounds like you've got a pretty sweet setup for your racing games though.

View Poll Results: Which System Will You Be Choosing?
Xbox One Hands Down	20	20.00%
PS4 Hands Down	49	49.00%
Xbox One by a Smidge	10	10.00%
PS4 by a Smidge	3	3.00%
Im Going to Wait for Consumer Reviews	11	11.00%
My Xbox 360 or PS3 is all I Need	7	7.00%
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Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31941	I found this information and was excited at first, but the more I read, the more questions I have. Maybe some of you can help me figure it out. Microsoft is taking advanced measures to prevent cheating on the Xbox One network. With these measures the game experience for decent players will be improved. In an interview with OXM (Official Xbox Magazine), Mike Lavin, senior product manager at Microsoft states that the new reputation-system together with the cloud, will greatly enhance the game experience for players who play by the book. The reputationsystem of the Xbone, that is taking over from the five-star system that is used on the Xbox 360, gives Microsoft the opportunity to localize players who don’t behave properly. “If a small percentage of our gaming population is making the gaming experience of other gamers terrible, then we should be able to track those players” Lavin explains that Microsoft hopes that more players will play online and communicate with strangers. This requires a community with decent people, and not people who scream and yell all the time. The new reputation will link people who behave badly to people who also behave badly. The same goes for people who behave properly, those people will be linked to decently behaving people. Does anyone have expierence with this kind of system or know more about it? What is to keep a group of friends or even a lobby from all giving bad feedback to a player for being really good at the game? Or a young kid....I have been in lobbys where a young kid just tries to say hi, and everyone starts being rude to them, just because they are a kid. How will they monitor these ratings or feedback scores? I do not see how it is possible for it to be fair. I would hate to end up playing with true jerks just because I owned a lobby in COD for a few games. I dunno I see alot of abuse coming from this system. __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list!

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Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	I'll definitely (eventually) get PS4. My only concern, so to speak, is that I haven't seen anything yet that makes the PS4 really seem like a giant leap forward (compare PS1 to PS2 and PS2 to PS3 -- HUGE improvements in graphics). So far, PS4 games look pretty PS3ish to me. I'd need to see something truly amazing to have me really excited about it, as opposed to feeling tepid about it and dreading the price. I won't be buying it at launch, that's for sure. I'll wait until there's at least one game I am hell bent to get -- nothing listed for launch really does it for me. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it. Last edited by Jordo!; 07-12-2013 at 02:39 AM.

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