Forged Fail: ZdayZ Airstrip Ban

Haboob · 05-15-2013, 09:59 AM

I saw that last night.

It's been blown so far out of proportion now.

FPenvy · 05-15-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

I saw that last night.

It's been blown so far out of proportion now.

gotta love the internet right?

Haboob · 05-15-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

gotta love the internet right?

No. I don't like it.

Rarely use it.

FPenvy · 05-15-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

No. I don't like it.

Rarely use it.

Red__Zed · 05-15-2013, 10:01 AM

Jalopnik as usual is just looking to stir stuff up

edub370 · 05-15-2013, 10:02 AM

yea. they are making a big deal out of nothing. i think both sides could have possibly handled a few things differently, but neither was right or wrong

FPenvy · 05-15-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

yea. they are making a big deal out of nothing. i think both sides could have possibly handled a few things differently, but neither was right or wrong

who cares......

it's funny for us and most importantly it's free publicity for ZdayZ

i'll allow it. plus the dude can run again so it worked out in the end.

well for everyone but forged. they shot themselves in not one but BOTH feet

edub370 · 05-15-2013, 10:41 AM

welp... im ready to catch some ****, but i'm just gonna say it. after reading thru everything, i think forge did everything they could with the parts, time, and changes that they had. gotta say i'm leaning on their side on this lil debate

Haboob · 05-15-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

welp... im ready to catch some ****, but i'm just gonna say it. after reading thru everything, i think forge did everything they could with the parts, time, and changes that they had. gotta say i'm leaning on their side on this lil debate

They had over a year to build the car and a seemingly blank check.

Boeing builds a 747 in 4-5 months from start to finish...

I think it's a case of poor time management and milking the customer for all they could get. Then when the customer wised up they panicked and threw stuff together.

That or they were totally incompetent and/or lazy. They also had a lot of turnover during this "build", which should say something else about the company too.

FPenvy · 05-15-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

They had over a year to build the car and a seemingly blank check.

Boeing builds a 747 in 4-5 months from start to finish...

I think it's a case of poor time management and milking the customer for all they could get. Then when the customer wised up they panicked and threw stuff together.

That or they were totally incompetent and/or lazy. They also had a lot of turnover during this "build", which should say something else about the company too.

read this. it has some of forged side of the story with multiple build plan changes and what not. who knows if thats true but this has emails as well as forum posts.

Nissan GT-R Owner Claims He Blew $250,000 On Shoddy Tuning

Haboob · 05-15-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

read this. it has some of forged side of the story with multiple build plan changes and what not. who knows if thats true but this has emails as well as forum posts.

Nissan GT-R Owner Claims He Blew $250,000 On Shoddy Tuning

While I know the price #'s were inflated (Really, who is stupid enough to drop that kind of cash into an $80k car in the means that his story portrays?).

Sharif "disputes" the time frame, yet never gives one of his own.

Was this an "orchestrated take down by TSM"? Who knows, maybe, but it seems a bit childish.

The pictures don't lie about the shoddy work, but then again - it could have been done by someone else and pictures taken after then...

I don't know, the whole thing that gets to me is this "time frame" situation. It shouldn't take that long to get a build like this done. If it was, say, bring it in for the weekend, do some work, take it back, and so on... yes I could understand. But he said, "Here are the keys!" and just left it. Three months, tops is what I would expect (unless the parts are truly back ordered, then again - still wouldn't be over a year).

All in all, Forged has had its reputation tarnished. If it was done by TSM, then it was successful. Though, I'm hoping it wasn't, because if it gets out that it was - TSM is thoroughly ******.

Haboob · 05-15-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

welp... im ready to catch some ****, but i'm just gonna say it. after reading thru everything, i think forge did everything they could with the parts, time, and changes that they had. gotta say i'm leaning on their side on this lil debate

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

read this. it has some of forged side of the story with multiple build plan changes and what not. who knows if thats true but this has emails as well as forum posts.

Nissan GT-R Owner Claims He Blew $250,000 On Shoddy Tuning

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Originally Posted by Haboob

While I know the price #'s were inflated (Really, who is stupid enough to drop that kind of cash into an $80k car in the means that his story portrays?).

Sharif "disputes" the time frame, yet never gives one of his own.

Was this an "orchestrated take down by TSM"? Who knows, maybe, but it seems a bit childish.

The pictures don't lie about the shoddy work, but then again - it could have been done by someone else and pictures taken after then...

I don't know, the whole thing that gets to me is this "time frame" situation. It shouldn't take that long to get a build like this done. If it was, say, bring it in for the weekend, do some work, take it back, and so on... yes I could understand. But he said, "Here are the keys!" and just left it. Three months, tops is what I would expect (unless the parts are truly back ordered, then again - still wouldn't be over a year).

All in all, Forged has had its reputation tarnished. If it was done by TSM, then it was successful. Though, I'm hoping it wasn't, because if it gets out that it was - TSM is thoroughly ******.

After reading and typing all of that, I opened my mind up a bit and can see where you're coming from, edub.

However, a lot of what is being said is hearsay and we can only go by what was provided (time frame and photo's).

Thankfully, I don't think I'll ever have to make the decision of which of these companies to use as 1) I'm on the other side of the continent and 2) I don't think I'm ever going to do anything this significant to my vehicle (present or future).

Yay for me!

Red__Zed · 05-15-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Haboob

While I know the price #'s were inflated (Really, who is stupid enough to drop that kind of cash into an $80k car in the means that his story portrays?).

.

The GTR owner never once claimed he spent 250K on the build, Jalopnik and other folks that failed to read the thread are the only people claiming that.

FPenvy · 05-15-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

welp... im ready to catch some ****, but i'm just gonna say it. after reading thru everything, i think forge did everything they could with the parts, time, and changes that they had. gotta say i'm leaning on their side on this lil debate

nah dont worry. i read both sides and yea i can see where both can be wrong and right. after reading that the guy with the busted GTR from them and that he rushed into the turbo upgrad with RHD designed JUN turbo kit i can see why that work was so botched. but then again if youre that big of a shop and do this work a lot i think you could do a better job than what they did.

soooo in the end they are both wrong and made mistakes. neither one handled it correctly but also this isnt the topic of the thread

Haboob · 05-15-2013, 10:51 AM

Ahem...

The customer is always right.

05-15-2013, 10:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	Jalopnik as usual is just looking to stir stuff up FPenvy likes this.

05-15-2013, 10:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	yea. they are making a big deal out of nothing. i think both sides could have possibly handled a few things differently, but neither was right or wrong __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

05-15-2013, 10:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	welp... im ready to catch some ****, but i'm just gonna say it. after reading thru everything, i think forge did everything they could with the parts, time, and changes that they had. gotta say i'm leaning on their side on this lil debate __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

05-15-2013, 10:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1388	Ahem... The customer is always right. FPenvy likes this. Last edited by Haboob; 05-15-2013 at 10:59 AM.

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05-15-2013, 09:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Haboob A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Surface of the sun. Posts: 13,159 Drives: '18 GTI Autobahn DSG Rep Power: 1388	I saw that last night. It's been blown so far out of proportion now.