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Originally Posted by radix023 So does that make an ACOG a Tier 2 scope? During the second battle of Fallujah, Marines took out targets at 800M and beyond (which is

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So does that make an ACOG a Tier 2 scope? During the second battle of Fallujah, Marines took out targets at 800M and beyond (which is past the stated accurate distance for the platform) with the original "donut of death" sight picture (since changed in milspec).
Tier 3.

You ever look though a high end Schmidt & Bender PM II, Valdada IOR, Nightforce, Vortex, US Optics. They all have one thing in common. Either US or German made glass.

And I DIDN'T say ANYTHING about marksmanship either.
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Tier 3.

You ever look though a high end Schmidt & Bender PM II, Valdada IOR, Nightforce, Vortex, US Optics. They all have one thing in common. Either US or German made glass.

And I DIDN'T say ANYTHING about marksmanship either.
Nope, I've never been that far up the scale. I've drooled over some Gen 3 night vision, but could never justify it.

If I ever went for the sub 0.5 MOA match M1A I might consider a premium scope, but as it is I can't justify the cost.
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Nope, I've never been that far up the scale. I've drooled over some Gen 3 night vision, but could never justify it.

If I ever went for the sub 0.5 MOA match M1A I might consider a premium scope, but as it is I can't justify the cost.
Once you use a Tier 1. You'll never go back. Between me and my 3 sons. We got one of each. Oldest son was a sniper with Marine Recon, the youngest was a sniper with Army Rangers. Both did 2 tours in the middle east. Elk hunting trips are real fun with those 2. I got the longest kill......so I got a head shot. It never quits between those 2.
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Just put in for my NM elk hunt for next fall. Have to wait for the draw next month to see if I get a license. Going to be using my Rem 700, 7mm Rem Mag with a 168 Berger bullet. Have to work on that load. Haven't used it before.
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Just put in for my NM elk hunt for next fall. Have to wait for the draw next month to see if I get a license. Going to be using my Rem 700, 7mm Rem Mag with a 168 Berger bullet. Have to work on that load. Haven't used it before.
If you don't mind taking the time, could you discuss scope magnification and supports a bit?

Do you use supports? (bipod on rifle, shooting stick, full tripod with lock, or just shoot prone and use your arms)
Is there a threshold of magnification you can stand and use your rifle with? So that higher magnification requires sitting, prone or some method of support.
What's the highest magnification you've used in the field?

I'm leery of higher magnifications on scopes, it's a sucker bet with telescopes and binoculars which fuels my suspicions here.

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TiborasaurusRex does a good job on explaining things on his Sniper 101 videos. He covers everything, including optics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=/pwG-D0HjCBQ
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Well ..............I got the results from the elk hunting license drawing. NM gave out 58,000 license. 208,000 applied for those license. And I was not one of the 58,000 lucky ones.

Bright side. The wife is feeling bad for me. Told me I can go out and buy a new rifle. Decisions, decisions. I want a 6.5 Creed or a 338 Lapua Mag.
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Well ..............I got the results from the elk hunting license drawing. NM gave out 58,000 license. 208,000 applied for those license. And I was not one of the 58,000 lucky ones.

Bright side. The wife is feeling bad for me. Told me I can go out and buy a new rifle. Decisions, decisions. I want a 6.5 Creed or a 338 Lapua Mag.
I vote for a 6.5 Creed unless you have some where you can stretch the legs on a cartridge like the 338 Lapua.
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