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Solomatrix 07-17-2014 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2899638)
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Solomatrix 07-17-2014 08:10 PM
Kinda funny how there's a wikipedia page about the subject lol
Bomb-making instructions on the internet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Solomatrix 07-17-2014 08:11 PM
ok i'll get out of this thread now since i'm getting off topic lol :wtf2:

synolimit 07-17-2014 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2899484)
I usually break in cars, following manufacturers' recommendation. I've never "broken in" a gun. Often, not always, I'll clean it first...at least run a swap down the bore, maybe apply a little oil, but I largely believe "break in" to be an unnecessary step for a combat firearm.
Which is 100% incorrect.

MacCool 07-17-2014 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2899676)
Which is 100% incorrect.
Uh huh.

synolimit 07-17-2014 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2899682)
Uh huh.
:confused:

VABAM 07-17-2014 09:01 PM
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Ghostvette 07-18-2014 08:15 AM
Actually, both my AR platform guns (the two custom builds) had a recommended procedure to break in the barrel. I followed the procedure, and the groups tightened up. Not that they were built to be tack drivers, I consider anything inside of an 8" circle @ 500+ yards good for the 6.8 & .308. That gives me a torso hit at that range, so I figure I'm good. But they both shoot within 5" at 300 yards, that's with me shooting (old eyes ya know). The guy that builds them is way better (sub 2" groups). My other guns have had 1000s of rounds through them and my revolvers have had the actions smoothed out by a smith. Frog lube is my preferred lube for all my toys. Works good and doesn't wash off if it gets rained on. :)

VABAM 07-18-2014 06:20 PM
Frog Lube FTW! :tup:

I can clean guns in front of the TV and no one complains about the smell.
Easier/faster cleaning after the Frog Lube has completely soaked in.
The best part it is bio-based.
No harsh/toxic chemicals!



Any way.

Got a new "toy"! :happydance:

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IWI Tavor SAR FD16 (Flat top 16.5" barrel 5.56NATO)
Aimpoint Micro T1 with Larue Tactical quick release mount.
Dimondhead flip up sights.
Surefire X300 Ultra.
30" UTG Alpha Battle Carrier pack

About 300 rounds through it so far.
Love it! :tup:

MacCool 07-18-2014 09:39 PM
Yep. Froglube and Fireclean are the latest fads in firearms cleaning. Looks like we've moved away from Slip 2000.

6MT 07-20-2014 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2900847)
Frog Lube FTW! :tup:

I can clean guns in front of the TV and no one complains about the smell.
Easier/faster cleaning after the Frog Lube has completely soaked in.
The best part it is bio-based.
No harsh/toxic chemicals!



Any way.

Got a new "toy"! :happydance:

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IWI Tavor SAR FD16 (Flat top 16.5" barrel 5.56NATO)
Aimpoint Micro T1 with Larue Tactical quick release mount.
Dimondhead flip up sights.
Surefire X300 Ultra.
30" UTG Alpha Battle Carrier pack

About 300 rounds through it so far.
Love it! :tup:
:worthless:

VABAM 07-20-2014 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 2902216)
:worthless:
You want more pics or did you miss the hidden "spoiler" pics?

Either way I'll post some more pics later this week. :tup:

6MT 07-20-2014 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2902384)
You want more pics or did you miss the hidden "spoiler" pics?

Either way I'll post some more pics later this week. :tup:
Ahhh.....yeah.

VABAM 07-20-2014 09:00 PM
Remembered that I took some quick cell phone pics the day I got it.
Size comparison pics of my Tavor to my ACR.
Both have 16.5" barrels

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tvfreakazoid 07-21-2014 05:08 AM
I ordered a tavor. But since I live in Kali I have to wait a few days, add a bullet button and a muzzle extension(overall length or OAL) needs to b 30"😢😤.
Until I move out I have to deal

tvfreakazoid 07-21-2014 05:12 AM
How do u like ur acr? From doing a little research it seems Remington makes the military or LE version of the acr that the civilians can't own. Which sucks cause the the Remington version looks better. Even though it doesn't have the foldable stock.
I wished I could change the ejection port on the left side. Just like the scar.

FYI Mudders milk is delish

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2902500)
Remembered that I took some quick cell phone pics the day I got it.
Size comparison pics of my Tavor to my ACR.
Both have 16.5" barrels

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VABAM 07-21-2014 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2902671)
I ordered a tavor. But since I live in Kali I have to wait a few days, add a bullet button and a muzzle extension(overall length or OAL) needs to b 30"😢😤.
Until I move out I have to deal
Even with the ridiculous mods needed for it to be legal in Cali, I would take a Tavor over an AR-15 or similar rifle any day. The balance and ergos of the Tavor are superior IMO. The last time I had mine at the range I was able to shoot it one handed and be, as some people say, "combat effective" very easily.

Once you get yours I highly recommend removing the secondary sear reset spring (fully reversible) like shown in this video.
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After removing the secondary sear reset I feel no need to get an aftermarket trigger.

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2902672)
How do u like ur acr? From doing a little research it seems Remington makes the military or LE version of the acr that the civilians can't own. Which sucks cause the the Remington version looks better. Even though it doesn't have the foldable stock.
I wished I could change the ejection port on the left side. Just like the scar.

FYI Mudders milk is delish
The Remington has been constantly improving the Remington ACR, just not the Bushmaster ACR (BACR). The non-folding stocking version you saw was most likely the version of the Remington ACR that was submitted for the Individual Carbine Program a few years ago.

I like my BACR but I have lost faith with Bushmaster/Remington with regards to the BACR . So many broken promises with regard to caliber conversions and the availability of different spec barrels. The 6.8 conversion kits do exists but are consider unicorns. All the barrels I've seen have been custom one-offs. The BACR is a good rifle. I would take an BACR over a SCAR 16S. Now the SCAR 17S is another story.

The SCAR can not be converted to left side eject. Now you can swap the side of the charging handle. Same with the ACR.



BTW: Stay Shiny and Bring the Grenades! :tup:

TheBoomSpoon 07-21-2014 07:44 PM
I also like music and reveiving Bjs and steak

JNews86 07-21-2014 11:59 PM
Got the Glock 19 and 26. Looking to purchase a few things ASAP.

Vegitto-kun 07-22-2014 02:24 AM
like I personally don't like how the gun laws are in the states.

I still want to go to a shooting range. living in belgium = never holding a gun ever.

I am in texas now though so I should bug the wife to take me to a shooting range.

exsanity 07-22-2014 02:31 AM
I thought they gave out loaner pistols at the airport in Texas.. :rofl2:

tvfreakazoid 07-22-2014 05:38 AM
I was thinking of getting the geiselle trigger group for the tavor when it comes put but at $350 its kind of pricey.
I'll definitely take out the secondary spring.

Its to bad we can't buy the Remington acr version cause personally its better than the bushmaster acr.
I don't get why they don't follow the Remington's version.
I think the acr is better than the scar. From what I read the acr is a bit heavier than the scar


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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2903615)
Even with the ridiculous mods needed for it to be legal in Cali, I would take a Tavor over an AR-15 or similar rifle any day. The balance and ergos of the Tavor are superior IMO. The last time I had mine at the range I was able to shoot it one handed and be, as some people say, "combat effective" very easily.

Once you get yours I highly recommend removing the secondary sear reset spring (fully reversible) like shown in this video.
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After removing the secondary sear reset I feel no need to get an aftermarket trigger.



The Remington has been constantly improving the Remington ACR, just not the Bushmaster ACR (BACR). The non-folding stocking version you saw was most likely the version of the Remington ACR that was submitted for the Individual Carbine Program a few years ago.

I like my BACR but I have lost faith with Bushmaster/Remington with regards to the BACR . So many broken promises with regard to caliber conversions and the availability of different spec barrels. The 6.8 conversion kits do exists but are consider unicorns. All the barrels I've seen have been custom one-offs. The BACR is a good rifle. I would take an BACR over a SCAR 16S. Now the SCAR 17S is another story.

The SCAR can not be converted to left side eject. Now you can swap the side of the charging handle. Same with the ACR.



BTW: Stay Shiny and Bring the Grenades! :tup:

VABAM 07-22-2014 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2904039)
I was thinking of getting the geiselle trigger group for the tavor when it comes put but at $350 its kind of pricey.
I'll definitely take out the secondary spring.

Its to bad we can't buy the Remington acr version cause personally its better than the bushmaster acr.
I don't get why they don't follow the Remington's version.
I think the acr is better than the scar. From what I read the acr is a bit heavier than the scar
I wouldn't waste the money on an aftermarket trigger. Now if you are going scope your Tavor and try to maximize your Tavor's accuracy then I would consider an aftermarket trigger. For home/personal defense the stock trigger with the secondary sear spring removed is just fine. Just my :twocents:

I agree. Remington/Bushmaster dropped the ball big time with ACR. If they had made the Bushmaster ACR exactly like the Remington ACR but only in semi-auto and had delivered on the quick swapping multi-cal promise, the ACR would have blown the SCAR 16S out of the water.

VABAM 07-25-2014 03:03 PM
For grins I photoshopped what a pin and welded Tavor with an AAC Brakeout would look like. :tup:

http://www.the370z.com/members/vabam...-look-like.jpg

MacCool 07-25-2014 04:42 PM
Well, I picked up an HK VP9. I don't anticipate that it will add much of an improvement over the PPQ that I've been shooting for a couple of years but I've never owned an HK before and I'm curious to see how it shoots by comparison the the excellent PPQ. Here's what I know so far:
  • ergonomics feel very similar to the PPQ. I have more than 6000 rounds through my PPQ and holding one then the other with my eyes closed, I can't really feel much difference. Both feel great. My hands are a little on the small side, I'll have to try the smaller grip panels on the VP9. With the PPQ, the smaller backstrap feels better, but I shoot the PPQ noticeably better with the medium backstrap.
  • trigger pull - average of 10 pulls...5 lbs 6 oz for the PPQ, 6 lbs 4 oz for the VP9 (Lyman electronic trigger gauge). The PPQ has a lot of rounds through it, the VP9 has none.
  • dry firing...nice crisp break on both. Both are excellent. Take up feels a little longer on the the PPQ (for me, takeup is irrelevant). Can't tell anything about reset without shooting both side by side.
  • size is approximately the same. VP9 is a hair longer in the grip. I can't really tell the difference carrying one vs the other OWB in a leather belt scabbard.
  • weight (with magazine, unloaded)...PPQ 1 lb 9.2 oz, VP9 1 lb 10.6 oz
  • VP9 fits fine in an old Tagua HK45 leather holster I had sitting around. I'll make a kydex holster for it this weekend.
  • quality of construction, fit/finish...both are excellent. I'd call them equal
  • so far, I like the charging ears on the VP9. Nice touch, especially for those of us who rack the slide rather than use the slide release
  • slide release placement is nice on both. I have no difficulty with either, although I typically don't use it.

http://ssequine.net/vp9ppqs.jpg

6MT 07-25-2014 09:41 PM
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Nice H&K's!

Here's what I'm gonna shoot for its first time tomorrow...

(and, I'll probably shoot the Glock too)

VABAM 07-26-2014 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2908531)
Well, I picked up an HK VP9....
Very nice! :tup:

Niche79 08-02-2014 04:25 PM
So I went to my local gun shop today and tossed a down payment on a new colt AR 15. I looked them up on gun broker and they were a bit cheaper there and some more so I thought they were in the right range (high 900s) with what I was looking for (no scope). I cant wait to get it home in a few weeks and try it out. We go on vacation in 2 weeks so I didn't pay it off today as I know we need spending money:) Its just my 3rd gun and 1st rifle. Now I gotta buy a SW Governor for my wife, shes been wanting one for her! lol

Bullit79 08-02-2014 05:08 PM
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I've kind of let my gun interest fade since I got the Z and the modding bug. But I still got a nice collection of handguns. I just thought I'd post up some of my Colt revolvers to mix things up in this thread :tup:

Colt Python, 6" Nickel finish. Definitely the "Cadillac" of the collection.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1407016630

Colt MkIII Lawman (.357). Found this off gunbroker. Could definitely tell it was someone's carry weapon as the finish has lots of scratches and looks like it was dropped at least once :shakes head: But it does shoot great. A little too heavy to carry, but makes a nice nightstand weapon.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1407016630

MacCool 08-02-2014 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Niche79 (Post 2917199)
So I went to my local gun shop today and tossed a down payment on a new colt AR 15. I looked them up on gun broker and they were a bit cheaper there and some more so I thought they were in the right range (high 900s) with what I was looking for (no scope). I cant wait to get it home in a few weeks and try it out. We go on vacation in 2 weeks so I didn't pay it off today as I know we need spending money:) Its just my 3rd gun and 1st rifle. Now I gotta buy a SW Governor for my wife, shes been wanting one for her! lol
Many different "AR15s" on the market. Some good, some bad. They are absolutely not all created equal. $900 might be a good deal, might be a crappy deal. Depends almost entirely on what company made the rifle.

Blu Z 08-02-2014 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullit79 (Post 2917233)
Colt Python, 6" Nickel finish. Definitely the "Cadillac" of the collection.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1407016630
:yum:
There aren't a whole lot of revolvers I'd like to own, but that's probably the top one I would like to have.

MacCool 08-02-2014 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by exsanity (Post 2903982)
I thought they gave out loaner pistols at the airport in Texas.. :rofl2:
Texas has rather restrictive gun laws compared to many other states. Seems to defy conventional beliefs, but I would MUCH rather have Minnesota's gun laws than Texas'.

Niche79 08-03-2014 10:16 AM
its the colt 6920 magpul edition in tan. I went to gunbroker and saw they were only a bit cheaper. From what I have read and seen other than their store that's pretty decent and colt is a great company that holds its value much better than the other AR companies.

MacCool 08-03-2014 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Niche79 (Post 2917673)
its the colt 6920 magpul edition in tan. I went to gunbroker and saw they were only a bit cheaper. From what I have read and seen other than their store that's pretty decent and colt is a great company that holds its value much better than the other AR companies.
The Colt 6920, especially the Magpul edition IMHO, is an excellent choice for an AR15. Colt is certainly among the handful of top tier AR manufacturers. $900 is a very good deal for that rifle. Consider a red dot sight.

Edit: sorry, I didn't register the "Colt" part in your OP.

MacCool 08-03-2014 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2908531)
Well, I picked up an HK VP9. I don't anticipate that it will add much of an improvement over the PPQ that I've been shooting for a couple of years but I've never owned an HK before and I'm curious to see how it shoots by comparison the the excellent PPQ.
I have about 600 rounds through the VP9, mostly shooting it side-by-side with my PPQ. I like the VP9 just a little better than the PPQ, but not by much. Both are excellent handguns, probably best-in-class among striker-fired combat pistols. I already dumped the Glock 19, guess I can get rid of the M&P 9L too. Not sure what to do about the second PPQ.

VABAM 08-03-2014 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2917702)
I have about 600 rounds through the VP9, mostly shooting it side-by-side with my PPQ. I like the VP9 just a little better than the PPQ, but not by much. Both are excellent handguns, probably best-in-class among striker-fired combat pistols. I already dumped the Glock 19, guess I can get rid of the M&P 9L too. Not sure what to do about the second PPQ.
Thanks for the quick review! :tiphat:

Niche79 08-04-2014 08:03 PM
So after wondering what to get my wife for her birthday next week. I totally forgot she has been asking for a Smith and Wesson Governor forever and a day now. She likes the fact she can shoot the 410/.45/colt through the same gun. I thought this would be the perfect time to go buy it for her and called up the local gunshop today, they said they didn't have it in stock but one would be here this week. I said great, put it behind the desk I will be there Saturday morning to pick it up! Most girls might be like WTF, a gun really? But I think she will be super happy:) Some of the good things about marrying a girl who isn't a stuck on herself bitch! lol They may be '10s or whatever but their attitudes can kiss my ***, I don't have time for them. Ill post up pics when I get it and give it to her.

SgtGoldy 08-05-2014 02:22 PM
In the process of obtaining my CCW (OC) so I grabbed a Kimber Pro CDP II off GunBroker :D

Super excited since I have shot 1911s a bunch of times but never owned one

http://i.imgur.com/8BakqzK.jpg?1

VABAM 08-05-2014 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SgtGoldy (Post 2920331)
In the process of obtaining my CCW (OC) so I grabbed a Kimber Pro CDP II off GunBroker :D

Super excited since I have shot 1911s a bunch of times but never owned one

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Nice! :tup:
Kimber 1911s are great pistols.
I had a Tatical Ultra II for a while but I gave it to my Dad.
It was a great gun but I didn't like the way it recoiled.

SgtGoldy 08-05-2014 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 2920520)
Nice! :tup:
Kimber 1911s are great pistols.
I had a Tatical Ultra II for a while but I gave it to my Dad.
It was a great gun but I didn't like the way it recoiled.
This has a aluminum frame so I'm a bit worried about the recoil. But it's a carry gun and wont be shot a lot (except to stay proficient) and hopefully never need to use it for its intended purpose.


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