I'm pulling out what's in my magazines vs. anything I could possibly get loaded to a military quality spec (staked and sealed primers, sealed case necks) equivalent in 5.45x39. Since ammo makers for the military or LE have NOT seen fit to invest in the 5.45x39, it's a moot point. I'm interested in what I can and do have, not what is theoretically possible. When they do that for 5.45x39, I'll stand in line and buy one. As of now, I have around 3,000 rounds of good stuff, including the SOCOM 5.56 optomized, 64gr Gold Dot bonded LE, and MK318 SOST. There is nothing in 5.45x39 that can compare, currently, of which I am aware.

However...7.62x39, I have shot a ton of stuff with it. Cinderblock, cars, wood, etc. and it destroys a lot more material/stuff than does 5.56x45, even using the SOCOM solid copper stuff. Also, loading the 7.62x39 with a Barnes TSX makes it supremely nasty. 0.6" expansion, 20"+ penetration in gel. Wicked. I know you can't buy it RIGHT NOW, but it is available and currently loaded, as is Federal Fusion, which is the same thing as a Gold Dot bonded, so 7.62x39 made way more sense for me than 5.45x39, at this point in time.

kewl... I'm not convincing you to buy one. I'm just saying, its not an inferior round. thats all. The 5.45 has minor advatages from 5.56 ballistically. But 5.56 has the overall advantage.
I have 7.62, Ive destroyed cinder blocks with FMJ. Shooting cinder makes the 5.56 look weak. But more than all this stopping power obsession you have. Proficiency beats all statistics. I prefer 6.8 over 5.56 but hey to each there own.
If you can engage your target, shoot fast and accurate. The round in the gun will be a much smaller factor.

Stay safe and win the fight.

for which gun?

1911

I signed up for the Magpul Colorado Resident special purchase program today. Thanks for giving me the heads-up :tup:

Magpul Colorado Resident special purchase program

I decided to join the tubular rail craze. Quad rails are so, like, yesterday...

I pulled the DD Lite 9 I had on this SBR and installed a Noveske NSR 9. This was a rail that I ordered back in December, was just delivered (Midway) yesterday.

Pretty straightforward installation, although it needs a 1 1/16 crowfoot wrench that's less than 1/2 inch wide to torque it down - turns out that isn't such an easy thing to find.

The lightness of the rail and its smaller diameter make for a rifle that handles completely differently. I like it.

After and before.

http://SSEquine.net/noveskensr2s.jpg


http://SSEquine.net/sbr6s.jpghttp://SSEquine.net/sbrslings2ss.jpg

^Very nice!!!

I decided to join the 300 BLK craze. Surefire 7.62RC SOCOM is going to get Form4 paperwork filled out later this week, and I am trying to source an 8.2-10.2" upper in 300 BLK in the configuration I want (Rail, QPQ or chrome-lined hammer forged barrel.)

Agreed. Just began my trek to obtain a suppressed 300 BLK. Should fill all roles nicely out to about 250m, which is as far as I care, anyway. Where I am going, they have black bear, so it is smart, I think.

The AK? I just felt like I needed one. They are so ubiquitous, that if you don't know how to run one, you're cheating yourself out of a life skill, imo

real beginner here... my first weapon

http://www.crosman.com/img/products/full/BP2563.jpg

Just got an mp45!

Ak's seperate shooter's from just guys with guns. The AR hits targets practically on its own An AK, shows how skilled you are. :tup:

hehe...

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps800f94ac.jpg

so you went with a sight reticle over a scope. Pretty nice.:tup:

I have been checking out the M&Ps myself recently. My next gun is probably going to be a M&P40. Smith & Wesson is growing on me.

I just ordered my five (the limit) PMAGs from Magpul via the Colorado resident special purchase program. $12.95 each with $5 flat shipping. Not bad.

you know the limit is 15, right? 5 each of the 3 types available.

I like it a lot. Keeping the magnified optic for the next build. Think I'm gonna do a .308...or maybe something bigger.


I found a 30 acre chunk of hunting land I'm seriously looking at, too..

Sounds awesome. With 30 acres I'd be looking at the next rifle to be a bolt action sniper in 30.06 or 338 lapua etc... :tup:

Browning has a new rifle that would make an excellent platform to be modified for those long range shots.

http://www.browning.com/products/cat...id=035&tid=285

Shot the M&P today, the trigger is better than I was expecting but a think some polishing and filing on the trigger bar will be in order. Also shot an AR-15 for the first time today, I want one, BAD.

That is sick-looking.

I'm actually leaning towards .308 for a couple of reasons. I'd really love to be able to run a .338 Lapua, but with how cheap I am I'd never shoot the stupid thing.



Also, sold my 1911 today. Dude that bought it has some great plans for it which is how I justified it to myself...

I feel you with the price issue... When you have multiple guns, you really have a lot to factor in. I want to get the browning in 7mm rem mag.

You sold the rock island? The great thing about 1911's is there is so much you can do to them so it can be a one of a kind gun. I'll take on a project like that once the climate cools down. (if you know what i mean?)

Anyone here have thoughts on Windham(old bushy) vs new bushy vs SW Mp15's ? These are the brands the lgs are getting in. Shot a bushy today, its a new bushy, seems fine, but Im a Ar-15 noob.

I see .308 as kind of a sweet spot. I may even wind up building an AR10 or whatever to accomplish that goal. 30 acres really isn't enough to need any more, and modern bullet technology let's me do what I need to with .308.

I'd love to do a 1911 project but I just can't justify it until I round out a couple more empty spots in my collection.

The 3 are all decent entry level Ar rifles. But they all have varied-featured low end models and when looking at brands like that. The name brand will help you a lot less than the features tyou will be looking for. All of the rifles will need some type of modification for improved reliability... That said Here's what I'd be looking for more than brand at a low price.

I'm going to show you a rifle. I'm not promoting or demoting the brand itself. I encourage you make your own brand choice. As opinions are like Azzholes... But I want you to look at the list of features on this rifle, more than brand itself. Those are the features you should be looking for in your first M4 rifle.

Complete CORE15 Rifles :: CORE15

Yeah, but I didn't want to have a whole bunch of mismatched PMAGs...I am kinda weird like that :rolleyes:

Thanks for the info! I was looing at the local classifieds, there is actually one of these for sale locally, again being an ar noob I did not know the name core. he was 1300 for it, has some extras. Guess im hust hesitant in buying a used one p2p, buying a new one I would at lease have some warranty coverage if need be, I know failures are not likely but I am useually over cautious.



here a link

LIKE NEW Core 15 AR15 Scout M4 w/ Magpul Mags & Xtras

I'm the same way, just got 5 as well

Core 15 is a new company with a NO Bullshyt warranty. They build what i consider in materials and workmanship, the best rifles out there right now for the money. BUT, operationally, I can't vouch for them due to being new. You need to do some research. I just know one thing. Their rifles are packed with every feature necessary to get started with a Reliable AR.

Stag with a plus package would be my first choice in the $900-$1200 price range but they have a 2 year backorder. Going about $300-$500 more than a Stag, there's Daniel Defense would be my first choice if I were spending in the $1500 range. This would be my rule if shopping Direct Impingement rifles.

Just want to stress thats my opinion and is based on my own research. I still encourage you to research and make the best decision that suits your needs. There are plenty of rifles that are awesome quality beyond my recommendations. I just gave my opinion as a GENERAL GUIDELINE

Windham = Bushmaster. Suitable as a range plinker, not a serious-use firearm. The M&P is more highly regarded.

The features on a particular rifle are not what you pay for. You're paying for the quality and reliability of the firearm and the quality control which goes into the total package, which is at least in part determined by the quality and reliability of the parts that go into it. Taking a bargain basement rifle and slapping a bunch of bargain basement doo-dads on it does not make a quality rifle.

You can get a Colt 6920 for not very much more money (in a normal market). If you're looking for durability and reliability, that would be the way to go.

It will be a plinknig rifle only, the market sucks, but I want to grab one before I cannot have one period. I bee researching and most say the new bushmaster is not the same quality of those made in the past and the windham rifles are better. I could buy online I guess to get more options, but those 3 brands are consistently coming into the LGS, thus why I think I will be limited to those brands unless I go used. I looked up the core15, they have a liftime warranty on the gun, does not matter who owns it, or at least that is what they adverstise.

Warranty means nothing if the gun doesn't work when you need it. Beyond that, warranty work is a pain.


Colts are hard to find now, but a great option if you can find at reasonable prices. DD is accepting orders now at msrp as well.

the build a rifle tool is oh so fun the DD website!

sold my crimson trace lasergrips finally.

goodbye Colorado liberty

Correct, my 300 BLK SBR build is scheduled for the first week in April. I have researched DD, and asked guys like Wes of MSTN, etc. about them, and DD actually DOES do 99% of their stuff (random figure, but you get the idea) in-house, and they do a damn good job. I would honestly take DD over any other "mass produced" M4 out there right now. Of course, Noveske, MSTN, etc. will give you more customization and spend more time on the rifle as a while, but for a line-item, I think DD is the choice I am most happy with.

+1, although, I am seriously liking DD vs. Colt for the same dollar. Colt makes a great rifle, so does DD, but it's my impression that DD rifles have all the goods, plus a bit more fluff and buff than Colt. Also, DD is quicker to market than Colt, as Colt chased military for as long as possible and DD has been a .mil supplier as well as catering to the civilian world. DD is just so much faster to market their concepts.

Don't worry about your LGS. The internet is your oyster. Buy Colt, DD, Noveske, KAC, etc.

Of those you listed, the M&P is the better.

Put a few hundred rounds through it. My M&P 9 Shield really slicked up in time.

I'm extremely impressed with mine. I am not any sort of expert when it comes to guns, but I know enough about mass-production to realize and appreciate the attention to detail on DDs rifle line.

That's what I hear, and they also have "the basics" down, as well (HP/MPI barrels and bolts, staked castle-nuts/gas-keys, etc.)