The first 3 letters of your serial number represent the date of factory test fire. Also, that date will be written on the envelope that contained the test fire casing that was included in the case with your pistol (unless your state is one of those that requires that that casing be sent to your state crime lab for cataloging).

Cant remember the key....google search

i have the casing...just gotta remember to check it when i get home lol

From the NRA:

I watched LaPierre's address to the UN on Youtube today. Good stuff.

I "worked" with the UN after the earthquake in Haiti. Not so much the soldiers "on the line", but farther up the administrative chain. It is, without a doubt, the most inept organization in the world, with the possible exception of Somalia's government. Getting a 2/3 majority in the Senate to ratify such a treaty is highly unlikely, but that's assuming that the UN can get its act together enough to actually write such a multi-national document that has any degree of coherence. I consider that unlikely. And the fact that Iran was invited to be on the organizing bureau for the group only reinforces my estimation that the whole process is likely to be yet another version of the UN Clown Show.

I'm not saying that one shouldn't donate to the NRA/ILA in support of their stance, but I suspect we have only seen the leading edge of the fear-mongering that will be coming down the pike and I'm inclined to take it all with a grain of salt. The NRA is most definitely not above trying to scare the people into donating to it.

This Arms Treaty can't have any direct effect on US law, and international treaties can't supersede the Constitution.

NRA is always trying to scare me to donate... they waste too much of my money on paper and postage. :icon17:

I don't own any Gen4 Glocks so I can't speak to any spring issue there, but AFAIK most people that have ejection problems with the Gen3 and earlier (stovepipe and/or brass heading for their face/shirt) is due to limp-wristing the gun. It's a correctable user error.

I'm going to pick up a Gen4 19 (or 17, or both) tomorrow. So excite.

Headed straight to the range from there. Got a new range bag, too.

This one:

Range Bags | Range Ready Bag | 5.11 Tactical

$100 on Amazon and it's nice! Plenty of space for bringing several pistols to the range. :tup:

I have a g19 gen 4 my self.

One of the only issue i have with it is that it rubs against my middle finger knuckle under the trigger guard. Not sure why because i'm my xdm 5.25 i don't have that issue. The trigger guard looks similar to the xdm.
But i do have a hogue grip on my glock. Maybe that's what causing it.

I don't have big hands either.

So i have a UTG a2 style carry handle. It's not bad. My only huge problem with it is, the rear site knob. They are extremely stiff.

Someone on amazon worked it out to make it smooth.

Can anyone take the time to make a youtube vid out of it???:tup::tup::tup:

"I did find the rear sight to be a bit stiff and it seemed to "hang up" a bit when elevated. I took it apart and ran a 1/2 drill through the rear sight assembly hole in the handle body and re-finished the bare aluminum with Birchwood Casey Aluminum Black (an essential product any AR enthusiast should have on hand). It works fine now, no hang-ups and smooth"

nice big range bag...im considering this backpack to use for matches because it seems easier to lug around during matches between stages than my regular range bag

CED Shooter's Back Pack

Controversial subject. Not everyone agrees that limp-wristing is a problem - at most thought to be only one component of ejection problems. Although it's possible that the grip angle of the Glocks may contribute to FTE's relative to the way that some people hold it, the issue appears to be improved given the different recoil springs in the Gen 4.

I've taken courses from some recognized Glock experts. Larry Vickers does give it some credence as a combination of grip technique and design factors. Louis Awerbuck just make a rude noise when the subject of limp wristing is brought up.

Today is the day. 19/17. Which Glock do I take?

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IMO the 19 is such a practical gun that I would lean toward that. In the near future when I get a full-sized Glock, I am going for the 22 (.40 S&W).

Neither, Walter PPQ or HK P30 :)


Just kidding. I have a Gen 3 19.

Just FYI, I had 2 Gen 4 17s. Both 17s extracted to my forehead and chest. I don't buy the limp wristing arguement when i can immediately pick up my Gen 3 19 or HK P30 and have it eject at 3-4 o'clock.

I got both

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:bowrofl: im not worthy to be in your presence :roflpuke2:

:bowrofl:

Who here is gonna buy Bonnie and Clyde's guns?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...-be-auctioned/

Ok gun experts. So what are good first guns? Something not expensive that I can learn to shoot on at the range and wont recoil in my face :p
And please provide links or prices. Thanks!

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G17 :)

9mm striker-fired semi-automatic like a Glock 26, 19, 17, or a Smith and Wesson M&P 9c, 9 or 9L/Pro depending on whether you intend to carry it. I'm not a huge fan of Glocks, mainly for their aesthetics, but there is no denying that they are well-designed, rugged handguns that are simple to maintain and shoot, and they are cost-effective. 9mm is the way to go - low recoil, ammo is cheap and available.

There are many, many, many excellent handguns out there, most of the good ones between $700 and $1000. Glocks and M&Ps, at ~$500, are a bargain as defensive firearms.

Please do not try to teach yourself how to shoot your new firearm, and please do not rely only on the instruction course required for your handgun or concealed-carry permit. Get additional training that focuses on how to use a firearm effectively and how to take care of it. THEN go out to the range and shoot it and practice with it. A lot.

As a size reference, M4A1Mustang posted above, what appear to be a Glock 26, Glock 19, Glock 17.

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or start off with a .22 like a sig mosquito or something so you can get trained not to flinch and work on your trigger pull

Like a BOSS!

Well we have no concealed weapon law so the gun must stay at home or taken to a range. Thanks for the suggestions. :tiphat:

Don't worry I will not be "teaching myself" :tup: I want to get good training for all aspects of shootong, owning, maintaining guns

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Too funny and almost predictable. Did you get the obligatory 33 rd. magazine yet?

Back from my range trip. All sorts of issues with the slide not wanting to lock back on the 19 and 17, mainly the 19. I was originally blaming it on the Federal Champion but then I realized as I was driving home that I was holding the pistols a little differently than normal, which may have been interfering with the slide release lever.

Now that I am home and playing with the guns again I am 100% certain it was my stupid thumb that was inadvertently holding the slide lever down.

Bummer that I have to go back to the range on Sunday to confirm my theory. ;)

Both the 19 and 17 shoot very well. I'm glad I got them both!!!

Now to clean...

Oh my Kahr CM9 is doing well. I think it's about ready to be given the green light to carry, but I think I'll give it another few more range trips before I do that just to be safe. For such a small pistol it's nice and accurate.

What can I say... I'm a reluctant Glock fanboy. ;)

While trying to decide if I wanted the 19 or 17 I looked at 1911s. My boss wants one somewhere around $1000 give or take. They had a nice Kimber and Springfield around $850 and some more right around $1000-1250 that I think he'd like.

Unfortunately I really, really like them too. :shakes head:

Holster help time...

I think I'm going to get an MTAC for the 19. I love my MTAC with my G26.

Now for OWB carry I am thinking something like a Blade Tech Nano or Raven Phantom... any suggestions? 19 is going to be easy to wear OWB in the fall/winter with something covering it.

Glock 21SF FTW!!! I love mine a lot. I would like to get my hands on an SIS 1911 tho...

Blackhawk CQC

Ive used it for years and have never had a problem. Of course you get those that go, "oh its prone to accidental discharge!" I used mine for work which meant I've had to draw it numerous times and have never had a problem. Its operator error imo...

I have one of those for my G26 and hate it!

haha well nvm then!!!!!

Lol :tup:

Dude, if you wanna take the drive north a lil bit into lake county, there is a really awesome range I go to all the time. I know the owners decent and they have instructional courses and rental guns so you can get a feel for what you like best.

I would try to avoid doing anything firearm related in cook county. BTW, do you have your IL Firearm Owner ID (FOID)?

The Prophet John Moses Browning is calling for you steve.....you need a 1911.. in that holy caliber of .45!

I currently live in lake county :tup: and I applied for The foid card yesterday so I need to wait about a month :eek:

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Raven Phantom is a great series of holsters. I have favored Blade-Tech drop-offset for range holsters and courses, but the Ravens are excellent, especially for OWB carry. They fit the gun well and their belt loops for OWB are superior. The problem with Raven has been their 16-18 week backlog. However they how have a "Quick Ship" option for certain handgun models and those are shipping in 30 days or less. The Glock 17, 19, and 26 are part of that 30-day Quick Ship product line. I didn't want to wait (or pay the $80), so I'm making my own in the little kydex corner of my workshop using Raven belt loops .

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Here ya go (not mine)

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Just added a M&P Shield to the collection. I finally got to shoot it this week, love it.

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