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m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1815282)
get 10mm glock instead :stirthepot:

:icon17:

I need to keep it 9mm as that's the round that I stockpile.

After the 19/17 I think I'm going to start getting into other calibers for fun, like one of the S&W .45 1911s and a German Walther PPK... :yum:

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815285)
:icon17:

I need to keep it 9mm as that's the round that I stockpile.

After the 19/17 I think I'm going to start getting into other calibers for fun, like one of the S&W .45 1911s and a German Walther PPK... :yum:

i guess depends on yours hands...the 19 doesnt fit my hand very well its too small
or a 1911 in 9mm too like i have :tup:

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:37 PM

I have (access to) a 9mm 1911. Colt 70 Series.

I might buy a good optic for my AR and wait on the new Glock. Not sure. I don't really get a chance to shoot the AR much.

But I know if the zombies come I'll wish I had an Aimpoint. :icon17:

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815294)
I have (access to) a 9mm 1911. Colt 70 Series.

I might buy a good optic for my AR and wait on the new Glock. Not sure. I don't really get a chance to shoot the AR much.

But I know if the zombies come I'll wish I had an Aimpoint. :icon17:

:icon18:
i wouldnt worry about the optic
zombie apocalypse comes, batteries will be scarce
id rely on my iron sights :tup:

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:41 PM

Maybe I'll just get both. :bowrofl:

BTW, I'm sort of the opposite of you... the 19 is a perfect fit for my smallish hands. The 17 would have the benefit of greater capacity and a slightly longer sight radius, but I'm not really sure how much of a difference there would be with the two. Maybe I should rent them next time I go to the range.

One of the major pluses of the 19 is I could easily carry it if I wanted to, whereas the 17 would probably be too big. The 19 would probably be pretty good at OWB carry in the winter.

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815300)
Maybe I'll just get both. :bowrofl:

BTW, I'm sort of the opposite of you... the 19 is a perfect fit for my smallish hands. The 17 would have the benefit of greater capacity and a slightly longer sight radius, but I'm not really sure how much of a difference there would be with the two. Maybe I should rent them next time I go to the range.

One of the major pluses of the 19 is I could easily carry it if I wanted to, whereas the 17 would probably be too big. The 19 would probably be pretty good at OWB carry in the winter.

go with what fits your hand best IMO...for the life of me, i cant shoot small guns accurately because they feel so awkward in my hand, i cant get my grip right

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:47 PM

With practice I am pretty good with them. But they definitely aren't very fun to shoot a lot. The G26 is OK, but it's really not a range gun. I can go and put a few hundred yards down range if I want, but I'd rather be doing that with a 19/17.

Speaking of practice, I need more. I finally went to the range after several months away (been mad busy) and had a bit of a wake up call. I need to get back to going at least twice a month. When I did that and put at least 200 rounds down range each visit I was accurate and consistent. I had all of the noob shooting errors last night. :mad:

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815313)
With practice I am pretty good with them. But they definitely aren't very fun to shoot a lot. The G26 is OK, but it's really not a range gun. I can go and put a few hundred yards down range if I want, but I'd rather be doing that with a 19/17.

i cant even go to a normal range anymore ever since i started shooting USPSA lol

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1815320)
i cant even go to a normal range anymore ever since i started shooting USPSA lol

I told my fiancée that we need to get her a nice full-size (or non sub-compact, anyways) so she can try competitions. She's way better than me. Her groups at 50 feet are as good as mine at 21 feet, and mine are pretty good (when I'm up and up with my practice, of course.) I get so mad when I go to the range with her. :bowrofl:

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815325)
I told my fiancée that we need to get her a nice full-size (or non sub-compact, anyways) so she can try competitions. She's way better than me. Her groups at 50 feet are as good as mine at 21 feet, and mine are pretty good (when I'm up and up with my practice, of course.) I get so mad when I go to the range with her. :bowrofl:

:bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:54 PM

That's how I'm going to spin the purchase of the 19/17, too. "If we get it, you'll be able to really show how good you are with a full grip and longer sight radius!"

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815330)
That's how I'm going to spin the purchase of the 19/17, too. "If we get it, you'll be able to really show how good you are with a full grip and longer sight radius!"

id go with the 19 then since im guessing her hands are even smaller than yours lol (or i hope so anyway)

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1815333)
id go with the 19 then since im guessing her hands are even smaller than yours lol (or i hope so anyway)

Yeah, they are. I think 19 is definitely the way to go. It looks better than the 17, too. I think the 17 looks like a duck. :|

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815334)
Yeah, they are. I think 19 is definitely the way to go. It looks better than the 17, too. I think the 17 looks like a duck. :|

hey! i have a 34 lol 17 frame with a longer upper

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 07:59 PM

quack quack...

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 08:00 PM

beaver duck...since i added a beavertail grip to it

Dzel 07-10-2012 08:31 PM

I bought the 19 for the wife mainly for home defense. Most of the guys around here make fun of me because I carry a 9. Everyone thinks I will not shoot as well with a larger caliber.

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1815362)
I bought the 19 for the wife mainly for home defense. Most of the guys around here make fun of me because I carry a 9. Everyone thinks I will not shoot as well with a larger caliber.

IMO it doesnt matter what you shoot as long as you can shoot it accurately...stopping power wont matter if you cant shoot it straight lol

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1815362)
I bought the 19 for the wife mainly for home defense. Most of the guys around here make fun of me because I carry a 9. Everyone thinks I will not shoot as well with a larger caliber.

Kirkster makes fun of my (and Trooper's) 9mms all the time. He has yet to volunteer to stand in front of one!!!

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 08:57 PM

Speaking of 9s, I was just given authorization to "buy whatever" I want. :tup:

xdeslitx 07-10-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815392)
Speaking of 9s, I was just given authorization to "buy whatever" I want. :tup:

:tup: buy my wheels :stirthepot: hahahaha

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1815393)
:tup: buy my wheels :stirthepot: hahahaha

:rofl2:

m4a1mustang 07-10-2012 09:24 PM

Sigh... I keep going back and forth between 17 and 19. I'm going to rent both this Friday and see which I like better.

MacCool 07-11-2012 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815392)
Speaking of 9s, I was just given authorization to "buy whatever" I want. :tup:

Be careful. That reminds me of an ad I once saw:

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SgtGoldy 07-11-2012 07:50 AM

^haha been there done that. It's not a fun to get what you want and then have to turn around and give it away lol. If I'm not mistaken there was a guy who bought a Z on this forum and had to sell it cuz he didn't get approval first lol.

m4a1mustang 07-11-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1815742)
Be careful. That reminds me of an ad I once saw:

:icon18::icon18::icon18:

There is always a caveat... I bought my Kahr because I bought her a pair of sunglasses the same day. :bowrofl:

BlackZeda 07-12-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1815300)
Maybe I'll just get both. :bowrofl:...

That isn't so crazy of an idea at all...for the price of one H&K or a good 1911 you can buy two Glocks. I think that is why I went with a less expensive 1911...I was like "Damn, I can get three H&Ks for the price of one Wilson Combat!".

Are you looking at the Gen 4s? They have adjustable backstraps.

m4a1mustang 07-12-2012 09:50 AM

Yep, Gen 4. I think I'm going to only get one right now. Probably the 19 because I remember it feeling better in my hand than the 17.

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MacCool 07-12-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1817786)
Yep, Gen 4. I think I'm going to only get one right now. Probably the 19 because I remember it feeling better in my hand than the 17.

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Interesting thread at M4Carbine on ejection/extraction issues on the Gen 4 and later Gen 3 Glocks. To be sure, a lot of it is classic Internet mental masturbation, but erratic ejection really is a hallmark of the later Glocks. I have both a G17 and a G19 and both will put a casing on the bill of my hat with fair regularity.

Skimming through this thread will shed some light. Don't try to read it all.

Glock Extractor Issues Gen 4 - Gen 3 - M4Carbine.net Forums

xdeslitx 07-12-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1817819)
Interesting thread at M4Carbine on ejection/extraction issues on the Gen 4 and later Gen 3 Glocks. To be sure, a lot of it is classic Internet mental masturbation, but erratic ejection really is a hallmark of the later Glocks. I have both a G17 and a G19 and both will put a casing on the bill of my hat with fair regularity.

Skimming through this thread will shed some light. Don't try to read it all.

Glock Extractor Issues Gen 4 - Gen 3 - M4Carbine.net Forums

ive read about the gen 4 problems too when i was looking into buying my 34

MacCool 07-12-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1817926)
ive read about the gen 4 problems too when i was looking into buying my 34

The most famous problems were with the recoil springs on the Gen 4. Replacing them has pretty much fixed that problem, but the ejection problems remain. Randy Lee (Apex Tactical) has had hit-or-miss success with replacing the extractor relative to stopping the stovepipes, but the ultimate solution to kicking those casings well out to 4:00 where they belong appears to be lowering the ejection port too. He just moved Apex into a new facility and is still setting up so they're not doing any work just yet, but he's looking at developing a new machined extractor (instead of the current MIM version or the previous cast design - both of which have been problematic) as well as offering slide milling services.

I'm relatively new to Glocks but I confess I find the erratic ejection annoying. I don't get as worked up about it as some of the ninjas over at M4C, however, as long as its not associated with malfunction.

xdeslitx 07-12-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1818063)
The most famous problems were with the recoil springs on the Gen 4. Replacing them has pretty much fixed that problem, but the ejection problems remain. Randy Lee (Apex Tactical) has had hit-or-miss success with replacing the extractor relative to stopping the stovepipes, but the ultimate solution to kicking those casings well out to 4:00 where they belong appears to be lowering the ejection port too. He just moved Apex into a new facility and is still setting up so they're not doing any work just yet, but he's looking at developing a new machined extractor (instead of the current MIM version or the previous cast design - both of which have been problematic) as well as offering slide milling services.

I'm relatively new to Glocks but I confess I find the erratic ejection annoying. I don't get as worked up about it as some of the ninjas over at M4C, however, as long as its not associated with malfunction.

i dont know if this applies to glocks but from what ive seen in 1911s if you go with a lower weight recoil spring, it keeps the slide back longer when you fire.
shouldnt this have stopped the stovepipes?
im surprised changing the recoil spring didnt totally fix the stovepiping issues as well

im relatively new to all guns, just info ive heard and tried with my 1911 in competitions

m4a1mustang 07-12-2012 12:29 PM

My G26 will spit a casing back at my face every now and then. Never had a stovepipe, though. Sometimes I'll walk out of the range and a shell casing will fall off the top of my head.

xdeslitx 07-12-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1818108)
My G26 will spit a casing back at my face every now and then. Never had a stovepipe, though. Sometimes I'll walk out of the range and a shell casing will fall off the top of my head.

gen 3 ftw? lol
my G34 Gen 3 runs like a champ havent had any issues in a match

BlackZeda 07-12-2012 12:33 PM

I may be fortunate, but I haven't had any extraction issues at all with my Glock 19 Gen 4...after I purchased it I brought it to a gunsmith (who is a Glock guy) to make sure I didn't have the faulty old spring assembly.

Dzel 07-12-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1818108)
My G26 will spit a casing back at my face every now and then. Never had a stovepipe, though. Sometimes I'll walk out of the range and a shell casing will fall off the top of my head.

My wife always has a couple land in her blouse

m4a1mustang 07-12-2012 12:35 PM

I have a Gen 4 G26.

Ugh I am going to be retarded and buy both the 17 and the 19 tomorrow. I know it. :mad:

xdeslitx 07-12-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1818121)
I have a Gen 4 G26.

Ugh I am going to be retarded and buy both the 17 and the 19 tomorrow. I know it. :mad:

send me one!...i was so close to getting a free G19 from a GSSF match...bastards picked the guy's name right before mine lol

MacCool 07-12-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx (Post 1818113)
gen 3 ftw? lol
my G34 Gen 3 runs like a champ havent had any issues in a match

They started changing extractors to the current version during the Gen 3 run about 18 months ago.

xdeslitx 07-12-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 1818136)
They started changing extractors to the current version during the Gen 3 run about 18 months ago.

got me wondering when my G34 was manufactured then because i bought it a couple months ago

id say 3K+ rounds with no issues at all


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