Anyone here into firearms?

Rusty

I don't know the exact law is there. But my guess he's going to jail. Just chest bumping, no contact with fists, feet or objects in hand.

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VABAM

Texas has some looser laws when it comes to self defense on one’s property and more importantly in one’s house. That’s why I brought up the porch and that it is considered part of the house in Texas law. Legally, Read entered Carruth’s house when he approached Carruth on the porch. When Read flung Carruth off the porch he was basically kicking Carruth out of his house, legally. If you read Texas law Carruth was legal with in the letter of the law. Doesn’t mean I like it and question Carruth motives in this situation. I feel there is more to this that the public doesn’t know but the impression I’m getting is Carruth probably will not get charged and even if he does no jury in that part of Texas will convict him.

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redondoaveb

I watched the video. I agree with the self defense part of it. The only iffy part is that Carruth didn't turn and shoot in one motion after being thrown off the porch and Read didn't come after him after he threw him. Carruth actually hesitated and took aim before pulling the trigger. But I'm sure I would have done the same thing. Heat of the moment.

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VABAM

Supposedly Read was taking a step towards Carruth when he shot him. Carruth hesitating, the “warning” shot, him getting a gun when Read wasn’t being violent, them standing casually after the shooting, while legal makes the situation feel slimy.

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Hotrodz

It was a bad shooting in my opinion. He would have been more justified when he did first bump him. Second firing a warning shot never plays well. It makes him the aggressor. The guy grabs his gun and tosses him but does not continue to pursue him. There is time and opportunity for him to retreat and move away from the threat. He does not!

AZ law states that you can threaten to use deadly force if someone is on your property and will not leave but you cannot use such force until you are fearing for your life. I suspect that will be what this case will hing on!

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ZeeingAround

Just ordered a Glock 22 service pistol off of GunBroker. Something to mess with and get a 9mm barrel for it too.
The BF sale shipped. Got the AR500 torso and stand. Now I can compete with the church for ringing bells.

On another note. School shooting across the state from me. 4 day old hand gun in the hands of a 15yr old. sad

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VABAM

Very sad indeed. Sucks that these kids died but like usual the media started talking about gun control before the bodies were even cold. The same media that is still calling the Christmas Parade attack a “car accident”.

Considering that the gun was 4 days old makes me wonder if the father was a new gun owner. I’m guessing if the kid had access to a gun before then he might have done the shooting sooner. If the father was new to guns then he might have not had proper storage and/or he didn’t realize how troubled his son was. Either way that father must be devastated.

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Rusty

Got a new anti cant level for my RPR.

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Rusty

For Christmas, I told the wifey. Either a Lab Radar or a Primal Rights priming tool. Which one that was in stock. The Lab Radar is out of stock and no back order for now. So she got me the Primal Rights priming tool.

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redondoaveb

Both parents have been charged with involuntary manslaughter for giving the boy access to the gun.

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Rusty

They bought him the pistol for Christmas.

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Spooler

Not sure what I think about this but the parents did do "Stupid".

VABAM

So many things went wrong and like many school shootings red flags were ignored. Makes me wonder if the parents really knew their son.

I’m not sure how I feel about the parents getting charged but they are not innocent in all this.

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Ghostvette

Dad did a 'strawman' purchase. He bought the gun for Junior as a 'Christmas present'. Junior is an unqualified person, per the current regulations (all gun laws are infringements). Firearm was unsecured in a bedside table and Junior had been busted for searching 'ammo' during school hours. Parents refused to remove Junior from school because of 'concerns'. Kid unloads on other students less than 2 hours after 'meeting'. They all need to fry.

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VABAM

A lot of more info has come out after I made that post. Parents definitely need to be held responsible. I bet they were "not my son" parents, never believing the red flags people were pointing out. This tragedy could have been prevented. So many missed opportunities by the parents and school to catch him before it happened. I'm still scratching my head on why the school didn't search his bag after seeing that note. A note like that, with his history, in the late 90s, even before Columbine, would have gotten his stuff searched at my high school. People being too worried about hurting peoples feelings cause a lot more issues than it solves.

I do feel that the parents need to be held responsible in some way but I'm not sure involuntary manslaughter charges are appropriate. In another discussion I was in some one brought up what if the shooter had used a knife or a car? Some people were saying the only reason that the parents were charged because a gun was used. Some lawyers are saying the parents have been over charged and this might cause them to not be convicted. Now the parents running doesn't help their case and that was very stupid of them. Kind of points to them not making wise decisions.

Just a thought, my dad bought me a pistol while I was in high school. I never had direct control over it and my dad was careful to keep all the guns locked up. Parents buying pistols for their underage kids is not a new thing and not irresponsible. Ignoring the signs that your kid might have issues and buying him a gun anyway, then not securing it is irresponsible.

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