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Originally Posted by Rusty Rumor has it. It's 2 jurors holding things up. Very much a rumor considering the source but it does make sense considering the jury wanting to

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Old 11-17-2021, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rumor has it. It's 2 jurors holding things up.
Very much a rumor considering the source but it does make sense considering the jury wanting to go over evidence again.

I’m not feeling good about this. Fortunately I think the judge will step in if the jury come back with a conviction.
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And if you do, the target should have half a heartbeat left to live. No mindless ranting, no waving the gun about. If the sidearm clears leather, align the sights and send rounds downrange.
LMAO, My father-in-law and his wife were at my house visiting while I was away. He is a Vietnam vet and has been to Front Site for their security training and what not. Well he asked my wife if I had left her any protection and she said yes, the gun is in the nightstand next to the bed. So he asked her if she knew how to handle the gun and she yes point it at the target and pull the trigger. He then gave her general instructions. When I returned the gun was in its place but there was no round in the chamber. So when he saw me he asked me a couple of questions. Do I keep my gun loaded and why don't I have a double stack magazine. I did skip a beat and said why wouldn't keep a round in the chamber, I don't play TV and warn you that I have a gun by sliding the rack. They just get two in the chest and one in the head. As for the single stack it just the one I have loaded with hollow points. If the gun fight last longer than ten rounds, I have time to get to my AR. I also let him know that I had three other magazines that are double stacked and ready to go.

If I am using a weapon for self protection, it is always locked loaded. It was that way when I had kids and I thought them about gun safety before they had a chance to be curious about guns. They were just part of our life which came with rules and discipline.

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LMAO, My father-in-law and his wife were at my house visiting while I was away…….
Those who say having a round is dangerous need to be better trained. I really wish the IDF didn’t teach empty chamber. The amount of people that say “well the IDF carries empty chamber”

Speaking of training, I don’t have kids but I do have young nephews and nieces. Every chance I get I train them on firearms. The oldest 2 (9, 7 years old) have a standing invitation to ask to look at my guns, supervised of course, and every time we go over safe gun handling and how to properly clear the weapons we are looking at. When they get older/bigger they’ll get to shoot them. Right now the thing I’m drilling into all their heads is when they come across a gun not in the control of an adult, to run away, tell an adult and tell their parents.
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Kyle is a free man. Not guilty on all charges.
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ROOFTOP KOREANS....... UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kenosha is gonna burn tonight.
I’m not 100% sure it’s going to happen. I have family near by Kenosha and what I’m hearing is if it does happen Kenoshians will not put up with it this time around.
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I think this trial red pulled a lot of people. People got to see that the media and the DAs were blatantly lying and manipulating evidence.

Most important thing is that Kyle won but this was also a victory for self defense and 2A. However the next thing that needs to happen is an investigation into the prosecution. They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with withholding/modifying
evidence like they did.
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I just watched the verdict being read in court with Kyle standing. That was heart wrenching for such a young man to have to endure.
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I just watched the verdict being read in court with Kyle standing. That was heart wrenching for such a young man to have to endure.
I watched it live with on Rekieta Law’s live stream. Even I was shaking a little watching the verdict being read.
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I watched it live with on Rekieta Law’s live stream. Even I was shaking a little watching the verdict being read.
I hope they hold everyone accountable for defamation. They need to pay for their BS lies.
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I hope they hold everyone accountable for defamation. They need to pay for their BS lies.
With Sandman settlement and now Rittenhouse being acquitted, Rittenhouse has a good chance but I’m not sure how successful he’ll be though.
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With Sandman settlement and now Rittenhouse being acquitted, Rittenhouse has a good chance but I’m not sure how successful he’ll be though.
I'd like to see him sue and prevail, but unfortunately, the prosecution won't be held accountable for their shenanigans. They are out for our firearms, by hook or by crook.
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Question

Not trying to stir things up, this is more about curiosity and meaningful discussion.
With firearms/2A comes self defense and the legal use of firearms.

There has been some very dramatic views on this, even with like minded people.

What are you guys' thoughts on the Chad Read shooting in Texas?

It's hard to separate the moral and legal side of this shooting especial considering the whole thing started with a child visitation issue. I have seen men broken over mothers playing games with child visitation. We could sit here for hours talking about how broken our family court systems are but lets keep this to the shooting.

TBH I initially thought Kyle Carruth was not justified and it was murder. Now I think he was legally justified but on the moral side of the things was wrong. Hindsight is 20/20, I wonder if I would have taken the shot.

Think about it this way. A guy, rightfully or not, yelling at my girlfriend would not leave my property after being told to leave. When I get my gun, which is legal for me to do, and tell the guy to leave again, he gets in my face and physically makes bodily contact with me saying "You better use it mother fucker or I'll take it and use it on you.". He touches my gun which causes me to shoot a round at his feet. (TBH this might have been a ND due to the scuffle). Then the guy grabs my gun and tries to take it away from me but end up flinging me off of my porch. FYI In Texas the porch of a house is considered part of the house/domicile. He squares up and looks like he is about to charge me. In fear for my life and the safety of others, I shoot him ending the threat.

Could you honestly say you wouldn't have shot him?

I can't help but think, what if they had been strangers?
What if it comes out that Chad Read was abusive and violent person?
What would have happened if Read had been able to get control of Carruth's gun?


What are you guys' thoughts on this?
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I don't know anything about the case. But talking with some state troopers years ago. In something like you descripted. Your size matters. You're a little guy with the gun, and he's a big guy charging you. It's easier for you to claim self-defense. Reverse that and it becomes somewhat more muddle. But if he has something in his hand and ready to strike you. It becomes a lot easier.
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I don't know anything about the case. But talking with some state troopers years ago. In something like you descripted. Your size matters. You're a little guy with the gun, and he's a big guy charging you. It's easier for you to claim self-defense. Reverse that and it becomes somewhat more muddle. But if he has something in his hand and ready to strike you. It becomes a lot easier.
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