Primal Blueprint

Cmike2780 · 06-18-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

This is going to work better. Gyms dissuade me from exercise unless they are extremely convenient (at work or at home). They're full of dirty people. The plan I've hatched will work because I am properly using distraction. The television with netflix ensures that I will be glued to something while exercising. The time will pass enjoyably. It is literally on my way to bed. It will be impossible to ignore. And it is not in a room where I regularly put laundry or whatnot to clutter things up.

I hope that works out for you, but I'm telling you as I would to a friend that working out takes more effort than you could imagine.... and isn't done out of convenience. If going to the gym by yourself is tough, try bringing a friend with you. As with anything else, it's easier with someone else next to you. It all sounds like excuses I use to make...and they are excuses. You just gotta look at yourself & man the f*ck up. You have to approach every aspect of your life with the same effort. It means cutting out all aspects of being lazy, which got you in this shape in the first place. Working out is hard work. It's not fun some days, but I do it anyways. Your chances of quiting are greater if you just work out at home. You might be able to sustain it for a few weeks...maybe even months...but could you imagine yourself being motivated to do it the rest of your life? Being in a gym gets you in the state of mind and purpose. You might still quit, but your chances of succeeding will double....and it doesn't neccessarily have to be a formal type of gym either. It just has to be outside your comfort zone (running/biking/kayaking etc.).

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Men like working out around women, women do not like working out around men lol.

Beautiful women don't drive me to exercise at gyms. They're pretty repulsed by me. Even if I lost 100 lbs at this point, they would still be disgusted by me. I know, I've been there before.

lol, I'm not saying you stare at them. Women like seeing guys work out just as much as we like seeing them work out. It's a mixed bag, but for the most part, neither really care. It's all about attitude, all you have to do, is not act like a creep. You can't put yourself down like that. It gets you no where to think negatively. You have to realize beautiful women, any woman, only care about one thing when it comes to appearance...and it isn't how the guy looks. It's themselves. They aren't repulsed or disgusted by you...they want to know they look good. A lot of the myth that say women don't like working out with guys comes from people thinking they feel uncomfortable being stared at. The fact is, they're just as insecure about their bodies as you are...if not more so. Five extra pounds to an attractive skinny girl is how you would feel with thirty extra pounds. So pretty much talk about something else besides working out if you want to approach a girl at the gym.

shadoquad · 06-18-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I hope that works out for you, but I'm telling you as I would to a friend that working out takes more effort than you could imagine.... and isn't done out of convenience. If going to the gym by yourself is tough, try bringing a friend with you. As with anything else, it's easier with someone else next to you. It all sounds like excuses I use to make...and they are excuses. You just gotta look at yourself & man the f*ck up. You have to approach every aspect of your life with the same effort. It means cutting out all aspects of being lazy, which got you in this shape in the first place. Working out is hard work. It's not fun some days, but I do it anyways. Your chances of quiting are greater if you just work out at home. You might be able to sustain it for a few weeks...maybe even months...but could you imagine yourself being motivated to do it the rest of your life? Being in a gym gets you in the state of mind and purpose. You might still quit, but your chances of succeeding will double....and it doesn't neccessarily have to be a formal type of gym either. It just has to be outside your comfort zone (running/biking/kayaking etc.).

lol, I'm not saying you stare at them. Women like seeing guys work out just as much as we like seeing them work out. It's a mixed bag, but for the most part, neither really care. It's all about attitude, all you have to do, is not act like a creep. You can't put yourself down like that. It gets you no where to think negatively. You have to realize beautiful women, any woman, only care about one thing when it comes to appearance...and it isn't how the guy looks. It's themselves. They aren't repulsed or disgusted by you...they want to know they look good. A lot of the myth that say women don't like working out with guys comes from people thinking they feel uncomfortable being stared at. The fact is, they're just as insecure about their bodies as you are...if not more so. Five extra pounds to an attractive skinny girl is how you would feel with thirty extra pounds. So pretty much talk about something else besides working out if you want to approach a girl at the gym.

All I can say is, while your intent is in the right place, you don't know me and are presuming a lot which is inaccurate.

If you got to know me, walked a mile in my shoes, you might understand.

Also, it is a fact that women don't like working out around men as much. This is why female-only gyms are very popular, and male-only gyms close within weeks. Some women go to the gym to work out and not get hit on all the time.

Cmike2780 · 06-18-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

All I can say is, while your intent is in the right place, you don't know me and are presuming a lot which is inaccurate.

If you got to know me, walked a mile in my shoes, you might understand.

Also, it is a fact that women don't like working out around men as much. This is why female-only gyms are very popular, and male-only gyms close within weeks. Some women go to the gym to work out and not get hit on all the time.

Sorry bro, I wasn't trying to put you down or anything. Just wanted to help if I could. It just sounded like something I experienced myself. You're right, I don't know you or have walked in your shoes. You don't have to believe or take any of my advice. I say all I have said without malice towards you and I do apologize if it read that way.

...and it's kind of a silly arguement, but I don't go there to hit on women...just talk to them

. I'm just saying you can't do that at home.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-18-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Diet and exercise are both equally important....and both are equally challenging to stay on track with. One of the best things you can do is join a gym. Places like Planet Fitness is like $10 a month.

Completely agree. I just joined Planet Fitness like 2.5 months ago and I joined with 2 of my cousins. Our motivation was to get in shape and look good for one of our other cousin's wedding so we made a little competition out of it between us. One pretty much dropped out after the first day because he was busy with work/school and the other went with me for like 2 weeks or so. I started getting used to going and then got into the habit of going by myself.

I didn't really change up my diet too much. Just tried to avoid as much unnecessary/unhealthy foods (cut out sodas, juices, fast food) as I could and try to eat a little more healthy (whole grain bread instead of white, more fruits). Eating like this and going to the gym like 3 days a week I lost a good 4-5 lbs after a month. I usually give myself the weekends as cheat days since I tend to go out to eat with friends.

At this point I talked to some friends/family who have been working out for a while about what my goals were and ended up completely changing everything. Went from weight loss as my main goal to building muscle as my main goal. I wasn't too far overweight to begin with, maybe like 30 lbs, but I was way out of shape. I started taking protein supplements and focusing my workouts more on lifting than cardio. 1.5 months into this new diet and exercise plan I've put on a good 3-4 lbs of muscle and went down 2 belt notches around my waist.

I ended up completely changing my whole lifestyle because of this and I'm so glad I did. I feel way better now than I did before, have a lot more energy, and am tired less often. I've gotten to the point where I feel like crap if I haven't been to the gym in a while, which helps motivate me to keep going back. Dieting is definitely a good first step, but you definitely need exercise to go along with it. You don't necessarily need a super strict diet or a really intense workout schedule to get into shape, just a nice balance of the two. The most important thing is to find ways to keep yourself motivated and keep at it.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-18-2012, 03:00 PM

I've caught myself checking out some women in the gym and I've seen some women checking me out there as well, so it does work both ways. I'd say this mostly depends on the person.

Z34Driver · 06-18-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Completely agree. I just joined Planet Fitness like 2.5 months ago and I joined with 2 of my cousins. Our motivation was to get in shape and look good for one of our other cousin's wedding so we made a little competition out of it between us. One pretty much dropped out after the first day because he was busy with work/school and the other went with me for like 2 weeks or so. I started getting used to going and then got into the habit of going by myself.

I didn't really change up my diet too much. Just tried to avoid as much unnecessary/unhealthy foods (cut out sodas, juices, fast food) as I could and try to eat a little more healthy (whole grain bread instead of white, more fruits). Eating like this and going to the gym like 3 days a week I lost a good 4-5 lbs after a month. I usually give myself the weekends as cheat days since I tend to go out to eat with friends.

At this point I talked to some friends/family who have been working out for a while about what my goals were and ended up completely changing everything. Went from weight loss as my main goal to building muscle as my main goal. I wasn't too far overweight to begin with, maybe like 30 lbs, but I was way out of shape. I started taking protein supplements and focusing my workouts more on lifting than cardio. 1.5 months into this new diet and exercise plan I've put on a good 3-4 lbs of muscle and went down 2 belt notches around my waist.

I ended up completely changing my whole lifestyle because of this and I'm so glad I did. I feel way better now than I did before, have a lot more energy, and am tired less often. I've gotten to the point where I feel like crap if I haven't been to the gym in a while, which helps motivate me to keep going back. Dieting is definitely a good first step, but you definitely need exercise to go along with it. You don't necessarily need a super strict diet or a really intense workout schedule to get into shape, just a nice balance of the two. The most important thing is to find ways to keep yourself motivated and keep at it.

You are right, motivation is key. I have done a similar workout / diet if you want to call it that in the past. I cut out sugary drinks, drank protein shakes with breakfast lunch, and post workout, along with other supplements. I just tried to be overall healthier, with a half body builders approach to eating. At this time I was eating high amounts of protein, but also carbo loading...the opposite of what I am doing now. This was on the tail-end of a breakup, so motivation was extremely high to get back into good shape. I also had a friend who went with me without fail, every day, and this helped tremendously with staying motivated. After a solid 3 months of working out, I went from 240 (my heaviest weight at the time, down to 200, and then back up to around 225 once muscle mass started building). I should have never stopped, but I fell of then, until now...with Primal...

and finally, I know I'm going to catch some crap for saying this, but from what my sister has told me (personal trainer) and from reading the Primal Blueprint, losing weight / getting into shape is 80% what you eat, and 20% exercise. Don't get me wrong, I know both are very imporant, and after having this experience I can say that I have lost over 30lbs of what I will go ahead and consider non-muscle both ways : being more concerned with exercise than diet, and vice versa.

Because of this, I can't wait to see the results after the next month, when I will be working out much more than I have been lately.

SurfDog · 06-19-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Eat less calories than you burn=weight loss. Simple as that. What you eat determines how healthy you are. These types of diets are great, but you need to keep it healthy and balanced....above all, exercise as much as you can or you'll gain that weight back pretty fast.

Many are begining to believe the calorie in calorie out model is oversimplified. a guy named Rob Wolf has a web site and wrote a book called "paleo solution" or something. After reading it I had a waaaaay different outlook on diet.

Exercise works perhaps in some amount due to how it flattens your blood sugar.

Anyhow whatever makes you feel best and makes you healthier is great. good luck.

Cmike2780 · 06-20-2012, 09:25 AM

I know there are a ton of other variables and factors, but the whole thesis is somewhat flawed. The life expectancy of humans during the Paleolithic era was around 33 years. Compare that to todays world average of aroung 67 years and it make you wonder, we must be doing something right....it just needs tweaking. The Paleo diet is nothing new. Eat healthy fruits, vegetables, protiens and avoid processed foods. Doctors and nutritionist have been advocating this from the get go. It's nothing revolutionary. It's an oversimplification, but our body converts most of the food we eat into a form sugar (glucose). It either burns it or stores it as fat.

A Calorie isn't something imaginary, it's a real and measurable unit of energy. It gets complicated because not everyone burns calories at the same rate, so we must make do with an average. 2,500 calories for an adult male...some people burn less, some burn more. 1 pound of fat tissue is about 3,500 Calories, so you need to have that much of a defecit to burn off 1 pound of fat. To do that, you need to eat less and/or burn more calories by working out. This is science, not just a fad with a catchy name. Our ancestors didn't sit at a desk waiting for take-out, they were out there running, walking, hunting & basically moving around for miles in search of food. Look at programs like P90X and you'll see results because those sessions involve a lot of movement and burn a ton of calories.

.... or another example is someone like Michael Phelps who consumes over 12,000 calories a day eating pretty much whatever he wants because he burns it all off.

If you eat fewer calories than you burn exercising, you lose weight. It really is that simple. I'd like to think of diet and excercise as a safety net to one another. To sustain a healthy weight, diet alone doesn't work & excercise alone doesn't work. By being fully commited to doing both, your hard work doesn't fall off the track completely if you miss a week of exercise or ate something you shouldn't be eating.

Z34Driver · 06-21-2012, 11:19 AM

So, according to the first picture taken on my phone, I started this whole deal on May 19, 2012. That would make today, day 34, so I think I was slightly off on my count before. Anyway, took another pic this morning, and thought it was time for the results so far...
Day 1

Day 34

Z34Driver · 06-21-2012, 11:25 AM

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 28	I know there are a ton of other variables and factors, but the whole thesis is somewhat flawed. The life expectancy of humans during the Paleolithic era was around 33 years. Compare that to todays world average of aroung 67 years and it make you wonder, we must be doing something right....it just needs tweaking. The Paleo diet is nothing new. Eat healthy fruits, vegetables, protiens and avoid processed foods. Doctors and nutritionist have been advocating this from the get go. It's nothing revolutionary. It's an oversimplification, but our body converts most of the food we eat into a form sugar (glucose). It either burns it or stores it as fat. A Calorie isn't something imaginary, it's a real and measurable unit of energy. It gets complicated because not everyone burns calories at the same rate, so we must make do with an average. 2,500 calories for an adult male...some people burn less, some burn more. 1 pound of fat tissue is about 3,500 Calories, so you need to have that much of a defecit to burn off 1 pound of fat. To do that, you need to eat less and/or burn more calories by working out. This is science, not just a fad with a catchy name. Our ancestors didn't sit at a desk waiting for take-out, they were out there running, walking, hunting & basically moving around for miles in search of food. Look at programs like P90X and you'll see results because those sessions involve a lot of movement and burn a ton of calories. .... or another example is someone like Michael Phelps who consumes over 12,000 calories a day eating pretty much whatever he wants because he burns it all off. If you eat fewer calories than you burn exercising, you lose weight. It really is that simple. I'd like to think of diet and excercise as a safety net to one another. To sustain a healthy weight, diet alone doesn't work & excercise alone doesn't work. By being fully commited to doing both, your hard work doesn't fall off the track completely if you miss a week of exercise or ate something you shouldn't be eating. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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