CoronaVirus

JARblue

It won't surprise me when we find out the covid mortality rate isn't that bad (closer to 1% like influenza) but that something like 90% of the world's population contracted it.

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FL 4Motion

The financial destruction caused by this virus is going to echo longer than the health crisis for the country and the world as a whole.

For better or for worse, there are most likely going to be very serious discussions about he policy directions we as a country want to go in. And what we expect from our elected leaders who are supposed to represent all of our interests are.

I predict at least two topics that will come up, better access to affordable health care and ubi, (universal basic income, which if done correctly appeals to my libertarian streak).


Negative, Italy had already proven how bad this really can be, and our mortality rate as well, remember, even if the numbers of survivors goes up, so do the deaths, our accuracy of tracking this virus is similar to seasonal flu stats, we miss shitloads of those cases too, but the sampling gives a decent estimate.

Don’t forget it’s not just about deaths either, it’s about possible permanent health complications for the recovered as well.

JARblue

First, Italy is not an analogy for any other country in the world. The high numbers of smokers and elderly population make their statistics essentially useless to the rest of the world.

Secondly, the sampling is still mostly useless when it comes to determining statistics. We need to sample a hell of a lot more people. At this point we are still pretty much flying blind and making guesses as to how things are going to go.

Your last statement is going to be the determining factor of how bad this thing really is IMO. There's got to be dozens variations of the virus based on the varied human responses we are seeing. We still have a lot to learn

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FL 4Motion

Fair point about Italy, kinda of was a perfect storm with their population.

I still think we’re going to be looking at around 1% - 2% mortality rate when we finally get good numbers at some point. It’s bad, but it’s still not Ebola bad, if it were, half of us here would be dead by now.

Nevertheless, it’s serious and it’s social disruption factor is off the charts. That aspect may not calm down until there’s a vaccine or everyone just gets used to it, fear of the unknown has def played a big role in this as well.

JARblue

To be fair, other locations are quickly approaching Italy's rates, which isn't a good sign. Look at Spain and UK and France now. New York is right there, too. I'm not suggesting it won't get that bad. It is early. Who knows where we go from here. That was my main point - we don't really have enough information to make any solid judgments yet. Next summer, I expect we'll have a pretty good understanding of what the virus was doing right now lol.

I was just saying I won't be surprised if the mortality rates are inflated because so many people get infected that aren't ever tested. Testing as many people as possible and research for treatment are the critical things right now. No point in even talking about statistics, frankly. We know they are bad and that's all we need to know right now.

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FL 4Motion

More Testing, esp antibody tests and quick turn around infection tests, and research cant come soon enough. Hopefully we see a vaccine by next year.

Zoren 370

Vaccine is definitely out next year...so for now hold tight as this would be long roller coaster ride!

Secure your puke bags!

asht

Actually Ebola’s mortality rate is what stops millions and billions getting it. It does out before too many people get infected


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asht

We haven’t had the 2nd or 3rd wave yet


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