Greetings, Utah Owner broken down in Savannah, GA

nr7 · 06-18-2021, 12:02 AM

Thanks to all that have provided advice and suggestions.

Double thanks to all that chose to exercise sympathy and understanding during my bitch fest.

Sorry to start my forum tenure with such a rant. I had just went from a nice little top down drive through the sights of Savannah to needing to use my toe to tug up my pedal, to having a mechanic fiddle about resulting in informing me that now she wouldn't move an inch and that they did not have time to work on her. To having a dealer say that they refuse to work on (or sell) 370z's to being informed that I needed to purchase thousands in parts and nearly as much in labor, but those parts were currently unavailable, even if I could find someone to install them. To paying $20 for a cab ride back to my room that was less than a mile away after waiting over an hour.

I walked across the street in the 97 degree humidity, bought a couple of whiskey pints, went back to my room, made a big cocktail, then checked my email only to find my the370z.com forum approval, so I logged on and started typing.

It was an exercise in catharsis really, and in the end, I felt better after doing so, even though I made the good members of this forum absorb the brunt of it.

Nonetheless, I have started a different thread to ask questions about my current mechanical issues and would appreciate any advise that may be proffered.

I could use some advice on Master/Slave cylinder issues...

Again, thanks to all that bore with my rant and offered sympathy and/or advice.

.

THE BULL · 06-18-2021, 10:44 AM

As surprising as it sounds, that is all that it takes to overheat the oil, even great oil would have you around the same temperatures. This is a manufacturer defect but one that with the proper research can be mended. You'll notice the difference right away with that cooler.

If you want to prepare for the gallery gasket, install an oil pressure gauge. You can have it visible or hidden. At that mileage it shouldn't need constant attention and if a worry ever rises you can compare your pressure numbers to the ones here which are pretty constant.

FYI I saw the repair order of a 2018 that had a full top replacement under warranty. $19,000 for a brand new "Nissan" top.

Safe to assume that a convertible top tech will have business for centuries
There is a guy in the G37 forums called Guy Menard that makes billet gears for the G37 top. Unsure if the Z has gears like the G but if they do then these gears are PLASTIC.

Start putting somethings on paper to set aside a budget for the car to take care of these pesky issues and it will last you a lifetime. No kidding.

nr7 · 06-19-2021, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BULL

As surprising as it sounds, that is all that it takes to overheat the oil, even great oil would have you around the same temperatures. This is a manufacturer defect but one that with the proper research can be mended. You'll notice the difference right away with that cooler.

The Fast Intentions cooler kit is a nice setup. Concern about oil temps have been eliminated for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BULL

If you want to prepare for the gallery gasket, install an oil pressure gauge. You can have it visible or hidden. At that mileage it shouldn't need constant attention and if a worry ever rises you can compare your pressure numbers to the ones here which are pretty constant.

Can you summarize the gallery gasket thing?

I take it the gallery gasket is a point of common failure that cause loss of oil pressure and perhaps engine failure and one must pull the entire motor to replace it? Does it fail w/o warning? Are you advising I get and oil pressure gauge engage before I proceed further? Or only if I am keeping the car long term?

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BULL

FYI I saw the repair order of a 2018 that had a full top replacement under warranty. $19,000 for a brand new "Nissan" top.

$13,000 for the parts and $6000 for installation for another top that will most like fail in very short order.
If corporations actually had consciences, Nissan should be ashamed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE BULL

Start putting somethings on paper to set aside a budget for the car to take care of these pesky issues and it will last you a lifetime. No kidding.

Thanks. I have plenty saved to handle this, and future problems (in fact I could, and in hind sight probably should, have spent a fair bit more for a vehicle for this trip) with the car, but the plan, as it always has been, is to sell the car after the trip. I love having a roadster, but don't have the space to garage it and it's just not practical for me as a daily driver.

That said, it is not my intention to knowingly ignore any maintenance issues in hopes of perfidiously passing them on to some future unsuspecting buyer. The car is now in significantly better shape than when I purchased it and, except for the added miles, I'd like to keep it in excellent condition.

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Ghostvette · 06-22-2021, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nr7

The Fast Intentions cooler kit is a nice setup. Concern about oil temps have been eliminated for me.

Can you summarize the gallery gasket thing?

I take it the gallery gasket is a point of common failure that cause loss of oil pressure and perhaps engine failure and one must pull the entire motor to replace it? Does it fail w/o warning? Are you advising I get and oil pressure gauge engage before I proceed further? Or only if I am keeping the car long term?

$13,000 for the parts and $6000 for installation for another top that will most like fail in very short order.
If corporations actually had consciences, Nissan should be ashamed.

Thanks. I have plenty saved to handle this, and future problems (in fact I could, and in hind sight probably should, have spent a fair bit more for a vehicle for this trip) with the car, but the plan, as it always has been, is to sell the car after the trip. I love having a roadster, but don't have the space to garage it and it's just not practical for me as a daily driver.

That said, it is not my intention to knowingly ignore any maintenance issues in hopes of perfidiously passing them on to some future unsuspecting buyer. The car is now in significantly better shape than when I purchased it and, except for the added miles, I'd like to keep it in excellent condition.

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The gallery gasket doesn't require engine removal, just almost everything on the front of the engine to get to them. There is a kit that has all the replacement gaskets and fasteners. You'll want to use loc-tite and a punch to stake the fasteners in place to keep them from rotating out. Sorry to hear you had such a piss-poor introduction to the car.

BettyZ · 06-22-2021, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nr7

The Fast Intentions cooler kit is a nice setup. Concern about oil temps have been eliminated for me.

Can you summarize the gallery gasket thing?

I take it the gallery gasket is a point of common failure that cause loss of oil pressure and perhaps engine failure and one must pull the entire motor to replace it? Does it fail w/o warning? Are you advising I get and oil pressure gauge engage before I proceed further? Or only if I am keeping the car long term?

$13,000 for the parts and $6000 for installation for another top that will most like fail in very short order.
If corporations actually had consciences, Nissan should be ashamed.

Thanks. I have plenty saved to handle this, and future problems (in fact I could, and in hind sight probably should, have spent a fair bit more for a vehicle for this trip) with the car, but the plan, as it always has been, is to sell the car after the trip. I love having a roadster, but don't have the space to garage it and it's just not practical for me as a daily driver.

That said, it is not my intention to knowingly ignore any maintenance issues in hopes of perfidiously passing them on to some future unsuspecting buyer. The car is now in significantly better shape than when I purchased it and, except for the added miles, I'd like to keep it in excellent condition.

.

Galley gaskets are inside the timing cover. Your year has chitty paper gaskets that are guaranteed to fail eventually. When that happens your oil pools in the timing cover and your pressure drops. By the time the OEM oil pressure warning light goes on, the motor is already toast.

Replacing it depends on your skill level / tool quantity. When I did it, I had very little of either and it took me a month of after-work nights and weekends. Nowadays it would probably take me 10-16 hours, alone.

BettyZ · 06-22-2021, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nr7

Thanks to all that have provided advice and suggestions.

Double thanks to all that chose to exercise sympathy and understanding during my bitch fest.

Sorry to start my forum tenure with such a rant. I had just went from a nice little top down drive through the sights of Savannah to needing to use my toe to tug up my pedal, to having a mechanic fiddle about resulting in informing me that now she wouldn't move an inch and that they did not have time to work on her. To having a dealer say that they refuse to work on (or sell) 370z's to being informed that I needed to purchase thousands in parts and nearly as much in labor, but those parts were currently unavailable, even if I could find someone to install them. To paying $20 for a cab ride back to my room that was less than a mile away after waiting over an hour.

I walked across the street in the 97 degree humidity, bought a couple of whiskey pints, went back to my room, made a big cocktail, then checked my email only to find my the370z.com forum approval, so I logged on and started typing.

It was an exercise in catharsis really, and in the end, I felt better after doing so, even though I made the good members of this forum absorb the brunt of it.

Nonetheless, I have started a different thread to ask questions about my current mechanical issues and would appreciate any advise that may be proffered.

I could use some advice on Master/Slave cylinder issues...

Again, thanks to all that bore with my rant and offered sympathy and/or advice.

.

Holy shiite! A new forum member that knows how to apologize and ask for advice!?

06-18-2021, 12:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
nr7 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Wasatch Mountains Posts: 35 Drives: 2010 Roadster Sport Rep Power: 6	Thanks to all that have provided advice and suggestions. Double thanks to all that chose to exercise sympathy and understanding during my bitch fest. Sorry to start my forum tenure with such a rant. I had just went from a nice little top down drive through the sights of Savannah to needing to use my toe to tug up my pedal, to having a mechanic fiddle about resulting in informing me that now she wouldn't move an inch and that they did not have time to work on her. To having a dealer say that they refuse to work on (or sell) 370z's to being informed that I needed to purchase thousands in parts and nearly as much in labor, but those parts were currently unavailable, even if I could find someone to install them. To paying $20 for a cab ride back to my room that was less than a mile away after waiting over an hour. I walked across the street in the 97 degree humidity, bought a couple of whiskey pints, went back to my room, made a big cocktail, then checked my email only to find my the370z.com forum approval, so I logged on and started typing. It was an exercise in catharsis really, and in the end, I felt better after doing so, even though I made the good members of this forum absorb the brunt of it. Nonetheless, I have started a different thread to ask questions about my current mechanical issues and would appreciate any advise that may be proffered. I could use some advice on Master/Slave cylinder issues... Again, thanks to all that bore with my rant and offered sympathy and/or advice. . Rusty, Ghostvette, sx moneypit and 4 others like this. Last edited by nr7; 06-18-2021 at 01:46 AM. Reason: typos

06-18-2021, 10:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
THE BULL Base Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 216 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 26850	As surprising as it sounds, that is all that it takes to overheat the oil, even great oil would have you around the same temperatures. This is a manufacturer defect but one that with the proper research can be mended. You'll notice the difference right away with that cooler. If you want to prepare for the gallery gasket, install an oil pressure gauge. You can have it visible or hidden. At that mileage it shouldn't need constant attention and if a worry ever rises you can compare your pressure numbers to the ones here which are pretty constant. FYI I saw the repair order of a 2018 that had a full top replacement under warranty. $19,000 for a brand new "Nissan" top. Safe to assume that a convertible top tech will have business for centuries There is a guy in the G37 forums called Guy Menard that makes billet gears for the G37 top. Unsure if the Z has gears like the G but if they do then these gears are PLASTIC. Start putting somethings on paper to set aside a budget for the car to take care of these pesky issues and it will last you a lifetime. No kidding. nr7 likes this.

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