F.I. Long Tube Headers Vs. PPE Long Tube Headers

chuckd05 · 06-01-2011, 07:26 AM

Chris those are real nice gains. Again mine are over test pipes but all the fi dynos look great as well.

But chris why didn't they monitor your a/f?

XwChriswX · 06-01-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

Chris those are real nice gains. Again mine are over test pipes but all the fi dynos look great as well.

But chris why didn't they monitor your a/f?

Cause I wasn't doing any tuning, it's just pure number pulls. Thats how they do it there. Once I get my intakes and pulleys, then I'll be ready for a tune.

Kingbaby · 06-01-2011, 07:36 AM

Great Thread

Props on the F.I. on being active!

TBOX · 06-01-2011, 12:14 PM

I've also been wondering on the route to take. One thing that has been a factor in consideration is installation. From my understanding from chuckd05, the Ppe is much more involved to install. In his post before he referenced the shop having to pull the motor, where as they had done several FI without needing to.

XwChriswX · 06-01-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TBOX

I've also been wondering on the route to take. One thing that has been a factor in consideration is installation. From my understanding from chuckd05, the Ppe is much more involved to install. In his post before he referenced the shop having to pull the motor, where as they had done several FI without needing to.

I saw first hand that Tony and the rest of the guys at Fast Intentions can have your car up on the lift, remove your stock exhaust, remove your stock cats and headers (even with the demon bolt being a pain), take a lunch break, (swat away annoying customers trying to watch every step)

Install the headers, and install the CBE, then take a test drive. Pack all your stock parts back in your car, exchange payment, and have you back on your way all in less than 9 hours.

Amazing Sound, Awesome Fitment, Excellent Customer Service

chuckd05 · 06-01-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TBOX

I've also been wondering on the route to take. One thing that has been a factor in consideration is installation. From my understanding from chuckd05, the Ppe is much more involved to install. In his post before he referenced the shop having to pull the motor, where as they had done several FI without needing to.

The pita was getting the stock headers off. They have installed many sets and my car was the biggest pita to date. Just my luck. The headers went on just fine. The problem is getting the oem headers off.

chuckd05 · 06-25-2011, 03:37 AM

I can say I am very pleased with the headers and I'm surprised that no one has tried these. I'm the only one I know of that has these long tubes. But there's 60+ with FI. mime are jet hot coated and seemed to be crafted beautifully.

I'd def recommend them from my experience. It also made my exhaust tone much cleaner and sound better. Plus the 21 hp I picked up over test pipes. A flywheel was also added at the same time but good power was gained for sure.

Megan370z · 06-25-2011, 07:42 AM

If everything goes well I should have them by the end of this week !
gonna be very busy next weekend with the install and then dyno tune on Monday July 4th

Ron · 06-25-2011, 08:26 AM

Chuck did your headers throw a CEL?

chuckd05 · 06-26-2011, 02:10 AM

Nope, no CEL at all...

Rooskey · 06-26-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

Nope, no CEL at all...

How many miles do you have on your ride since the install? Thinking of doing a little swap for $hits and giggles

KB2 · 08-05-2013, 04:57 PM

anyone else got any comparisons on ppe vs fi?

edub370 · 08-06-2013, 06:55 PM

Ppe gets my vote as they are equal length and Stepped. I've never tried either (so take my advice with a grain of salt). But I would almost put some money down saying PPE would make more power

XwChriswX · 08-06-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Ppe gets my vote as they are equal length and Stepped. I've never tried either (so take my advice with a grain of salt). But I would almost put some money down saying PPE would make more power

Since this is open ended, it doesn't really help...

Do you mean more peak power, or more low end power? Different users might want different results.

Megan370z · 08-07-2013, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Since this is open ended, it doesn't really help...

Do you mean more peak power, or more low end power? Different users might want different results.

from my understanding of both, PPE should have a little more power in the higher powerband than the F.I. but a little less in the lower end

but it wasn't proved yet .. hehe

06-01-2011, 07:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Chris those are real nice gains. Again mine are over test pipes but all the fi dynos look great as well. But chris why didn't they monitor your a/f? __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

06-25-2011, 03:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I can say I am very pleased with the headers and I'm surprised that no one has tried these. I'm the only one I know of that has these long tubes. But there's 60+ with FI. mime are jet hot coated and seemed to be crafted beautifully. I'd def recommend them from my experience. It also made my exhaust tone much cleaner and sound better. Plus the 21 hp I picked up over test pipes. A flywheel was also added at the same time but good power was gained for sure. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

06-26-2011, 02:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	Nope, no CEL at all... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

08-06-2013, 06:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	Ppe gets my vote as they are equal length and Stepped. I've never tried either (so take my advice with a grain of salt). But I would almost put some money down saying PPE would make more power __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

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