Originally Posted by LaSeeno Another reason why it's better to wait a year+ for other's to figure things out unless you are going for the sweet sound and don't mind
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03-31-2010, 12:33 PM | #196 (permalink) |
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Wow, it'd really screw up your plans if those of us who actually adopt and test new parts made a policy of only sharing our results with others who contribute to the community's body of knowledge, wouldn't it? It wouldn't be too hard to do either, seeing as how we can create private groups on this forum. (I'm just making an observation, btw. Pls don't take this remark as an implied threat or anything like that.)
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03-31-2010, 12:38 PM | #198 (permalink) |
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LOL. I will be making my review, dyno charts, etc., public like I normally do. I was just thinking out loud, in a manner of speaking.
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03-31-2010, 06:51 PM | #201 (permalink) |
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I think ceramic coating might be worth it if you are going forced induction, but on a NA car I do not think you will hit any high temps which might cause issues. With long tubes you are getting better flow over all so you might see a slight reduction in temperatures in casual driving and probably <1% change, if any, in spirited driving.
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03-31-2010, 09:19 PM | #203 (permalink) |
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If Osiris couldn't tune timing, GTM wouldn't be using it for their 370 twin turbo and supercharger kits, and Stillen would not be using it for their supercharger kit. If Osiris was not controlling timing, 100% of these cars would have blown up by now.
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I am just curious as to why he would recommend against heat-wrapping the headers. Wouldn't the ceramic coating pretty much do the same thing .. and yet that IS recommended?? Can you expound please?
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I emailed Tony last night, and his response to me was "The temps will be lower but the coating cannot hurt it will only help. The coating just keeps more of the heat in the tubing which is ideal for a force inducted application EPECIALLY turbochargers since they build power off of heat." At this point, I'm under the impression that if you're planning to stay NA (as I am), it's really not necessary and an unneeded extra expense. But I'm waiting for Tony to confirm on that.
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Update: I just spoke with Tony, and he has confirmed that if you're planning to keep your car NA, there is no need to ceramic coat. It will make no difference performance-wise (in an NA car), and the headers aren't near anything heat-sensitive like fuel or oil lines.
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04-01-2010, 10:50 AM | #207 (permalink) |
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And if you plan on going SC later?
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You can always take the headers off and have it done at a later date, which is what I will do if I go SC at some point.
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ah makes sense
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