Blown Motor, Engine Rebuild/Replacement.

elperuano

I believe 2 or 3 others have this kit with built motors. None made over 600. The only one I know that made over 600 with built block ran e85. I don't think you'll be limited by fuel but rather your turbo kit. SSqueeze with his stage 3 kit made the numbers you're looking for.

Good luck buddy!

COSMO

Thanks again esfourteen for trying to share this with the community....

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COSMO

Today I got all of the pulleys put on, a/c compressor, motor drilled and tapped and exhaust manifolds on. After reading Esfourteen's build thread his shop found a way to tap into the motor block on the drivers side and from there feeding both turbo's but after calling them they have decided to not share the part number. It may take some time but I Will find this part and post up a part number to all that have the same kit so you have the option of cooling the turbo's better than the way gtm designed it. Yes I offered to pay for the part but like I said I will share it when I find it...

elperuano

Solid! Good stuff hope u can get the part number asap!

COSMO

Actually after looking at the motor there are 2 ports that can be used on each side. More to come soon...

esfourteen

RAD T'd off the driver side because its the coldest source of coolant possible, but I would suspect running one to each turbo would still be far superior to what GTM does. Also be sure to clock the turbo so that the output port is facing slightly up which will help pull coolant through the turbo after you shut off the car.

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MidnightBlueZ

Coming right along!

COSMO

Todays updated pic. I'm getting close guys..

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COSMO

Do you know the direction of the flow going to and from the turbo's that way I can get a better idea ? The drivers turbo is already clocked but it can only be moved so much or the piping will not fit align correctly...

esfourteen

Theres no specific in/out, its just how coolant flows through the block that will dictate where it goes, ideally you want the turbo clocked in way that one of the coolant ports is higher than the other to help draw coolant through the turbo which would be your output, like this:



So if you orient the turbo in this manner the "in" is the left port, the "out" is the right port. the center cartridge can be oriented any way you want, just unbolt it from the compressor and turbo housings.

I would run a line from the side of the block as the "in", and the "out" route to the heater core hoses like it is currently.

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COSMO

I would have thought the coolant coming from the heater core since it is the highest point would flow down and through the turbo out to the engine port on the side.. That's strange that it would flow up instead of down...

esfourteen

the turbo acts as a thermosiphon, the coolant flows up because heat rises, this video demonstrates the effect



The main benefit of watercooled turbos is this thermosiphon effect which prevents heatsoak after shutting off the car from damaging the bearing system, properly oriented turbos/water lines will continue to pull water through the turbos without a pump.

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COSMO

Alright very cool, I now have an idea and will post up some pics tomorrow. Thanks again esfourteen for much insight...

COSMO

Whats gets me is gtm setup the kit that way with no water flowing through the turbos. If you think about it the water is just capped off but allowing the thermosiphon effect..

COSMO

As of yesterday the motor is finally finished and ready to go back in. After no help from RAD in ny I still managed to come up with a solution in which will should help support the drivers side turbo. Here is a pic of the EV14 Bosch 1000cc injectors I went with. I still may wrap the exhaust manifolds just to slow down the cooling process and heat inside the engine bay. Still need a 34 row oil cooler core and buy some oil for the break-in... My plan is to run the gtm map with the 600cc injectors that came with the kit and then drive to vsr and install the new ones before bobby tunes it..

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