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Originally Posted by dragonbreath Im hoping/planning efficiently to purchase this kit March to April of next year. Until then it looks like there will be plenty of customers to make

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Old 04-16-2013, 09:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Im hoping/planning efficiently to purchase this kit March to April of next year. Until then it looks like there will be plenty of customers to make videos for me to watch and drool over lol.

As always im very impressed with your work and transparency Sasha!
Glad to hear that...it is good to see that there is future demand for these.

As far as transparency goes, it is how I have always done business. There is nothing to hide.
I also value the feedback that is provided by the customers on these (and all other) kits. If there is something that could be changed, made better I am all ears. I know one customer mentioned that the manifold exhaust flanges were warped a bit due to welding/heat. As a result I have now gone to a steel ½” thick (vs 3/8” stainless) T4 flange. So it is thicker and made out of material that is less prone to warping when welded. The welding is also done in stages to allow the entire flange to heat up more evenly.

The welding process on the 3-bolt flanges (header) has also been changed and further steps are being taken to eliminate the chance of (slight) flange deflection.

These are small things, but in the end will result in you guys having a simple flawless forced induction solution for this platform.
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Glad to hear that...it is good to see that there is future demand for these.

As far as transparency goes, it is how I have always done business. There is nothing to hide.
I also value the feedback that is provided by the customers on these (and all other) kits. If there is something that could be changed, made better I am all ears. I know one customer mentioned that the manifold exhaust flanges were warped a bit due to welding/heat. As a result I have now gone to a steel ½” thick (vs 3/8” stainless) T4 flange. So it is thicker and made out of material that is less prone to warping when welded. The welding is also done in stages to allow the entire flange to heat up more evenly.

The welding process on the 3-bolt flanges (header) has also been changed and further steps are being taken to eliminate the chance of (slight) flange deflection.

These are small things, but in the end will result in you guys having a simple flawless forced induction solution for this platform.
This is one of the main reasons I have wanted to purchase a kit from you. I have followed the construction of your kits since the winter build thread on the 350z forum. I love that you arent too stubborn to realize if your design has a flaw, and that you address the flaw, find a solution to it, and share with everyone why and how. That is a practice that is rarely seen in aftermarket parts makers these days.

I know that when I buy this kit (its only a matter of time ), if there are any issues, you will bend over backwards to help resolve them. Im going to stop there before I too much lol.
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This is one of the main reasons I have wanted to purchase a kit from you. I have followed the construction of your kits since the winter build thread on the 350z forum. I love that you arent too stubborn to realize if your design has a flaw, and that you address the flaw, find a solution to it, and share with everyone why and how. That is a practice that is rarely seen in aftermarket parts makers these days.

I know that when I buy this kit (its only a matter of time ), if there are any issues, you will bend over backwards to help resolve them. Im going to stop there before I too much lol.
^^^^Truth.

Sasha is one of a handful of vendors that stand behind their product. Highly recommended.
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Glad to hear that...it is good to see that there is future demand for these.

As far as transparency goes, it is how I have always done business. There is nothing to hide.
I also value the feedback that is provided by the customers on these (and all other) kits. If there is something that could be changed, made better I am all ears. I know one customer mentioned that the manifold exhaust flanges were warped a bit due to welding/heat. As a result I have now gone to a steel ½” thick (vs 3/8” stainless) T4 flange. So it is thicker and made out of material that is less prone to warping when welded. The welding is also done in stages to allow the entire flange to heat up more evenly.

The welding process on the 3-bolt flanges (header) has also been changed and further steps are being taken to eliminate the chance of (slight) flange deflection.

These are small things, but in the end will result in you guys having a simple flawless forced induction solution for this platform.
Very cool to see those little changes being made! Mine is still running like a top!
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Hehe... mine just got built.
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Would you be able to put 1000hp+ on this kit with a fully built motor if you wanted to? What would the max RWHP be for this kit?
No there would be no way to make that kind of power with this kit and the two turbo options I currently offer. Some have tried with their top of the line TT's and failed due to a lack of understanding of fluid dynamics. Exhaust flow being a huge factor.



The only kit on the market today that I think is capable of that kind of power is the F.I twin turbo. It is very well built, uses the latest/best turbos that are large enough to flow for that kind of power. Again flow is key here.


At the same time the turbos that I use share the same technology (billet compressor wheels) as the F.I twin turbo kit. These (both F.I kit and my turbos) are the latest in billet wheel turbo technology allowing much better performance than what competition (old technology cast compressor wheels) is offering, unless you pay extra to get the good stuff. The other thing with the F.I turbo kit is that they offer the V-band style turbine housings that are properly sized (in a twin configuration) for this kind of power. These are much more suited for this engine, and again superior to the T25 turbine housings that have been around for a while already. The exhaust manifolds are also very well built, with a proper external wastegate configuration. All of these will play a role when you are trying to make that kind of power.


As for the twin scroll single turbo kit, I am confident that with proper fuel support and E85 fuel 700whp-750whp should be a realistic estimate. The turbo for this goal should be the 6766 T4 with a 1.32 a/r turbine, rated at 935HP by the manufacturer. With the 350z my customers have made 650whp/580ft/tq on pump gas (93 octane) with the smaller 62mm turbo (rated at 735HP) and smaller turbine housing. So the larger turbo and E85 fuel should get the job done.




Please note that those are WHP numbers and not CHP numbers. I know that some other manufacturers use CHP numbers, so please take note when comparing.


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This is one of the main reasons I have wanted to purchase a kit from you. I have followed the construction of your kits since the winter build thread on the 350z forum. I love that you arent too stubborn to realize if your design has a flaw, and that you address the flaw, find a solution to it, and share with everyone why and how. That is a practice that is rarely seen in aftermarket parts makers these days.

I know that when I buy this kit (its only a matter of time ), if there are any issues, you will bend over backwards to help resolve them. Im going to stop there before I too much lol.
Lol...I think it is important to listen to what people have to say. This is the only way a great product can get even better. BTW, I am very stubborn...but at the same time recognize that somebody has a valid point/concern.



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Would you be able to put 1000hp+ on this kit with a fully built motor if you wanted to? What would the max RWHP be for this kit?
No there would be no way to make that kind of power with this kit. Some have tried with their top of the line TT's (advertised hard too) and failed miserably due to a lack of understanding of fluid dynamics.



The only kit on the market today that is capable of that kind of power is the F.I twin turbo. It is very well built, uses the latest/best turbos that are large enough to flow for that kind of power. This is key (flow).


At the same time the turbos that I use share the same technology (billet compressor wheels) as the F.I twin turbo kit. These (both F.I kit and my turbos) are the latest in billet wheel turbo technology allowing much better performance than what competition can offer (unless you are paying extra). The other thing with the F.I turbo kit is that they offer the V-band style turbine housings that are properly sized (in a twin configuration) for this kind of power. These are much more suited for this engine, and again superior to the T25 turbine housings that have been around for a while already. The exhaust manifolds are also very well built, with a proper external wastegate configuration. All of these will play a role when you are trying to make that kind of power.


As for the twin scroll single turbo kit, I am confident that with proper fuel support and E85 fuel 700whp-750whp would be no problem at all (perhaps a conservative estimate). The turbo for this goal should be the 6766 T4 with a 1.32 a/r turbine, rated at 935HP by the manufacturer. With the 350z my customers have made 650whp/580ft/tq on pump gas (93 octane) with the smaller 62mm turbo (rated at 735HP)with a smaller turbine housing. So the larger turbo and E85 fuel should get the job done.




Please note that those are WHP numbers and not CHP numbers. I know that some other manufacturers use CHP numbers, so please take note when comparing.


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Would you be able to put 1000hp+ on this kit with a fully built motor if you wanted to? What would the max RWHP be for this kit?
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I posted dyno numbers in my thread and later thought people would like to see them in this thread as well. Here are the official Dyno numbers from my car with the Boosted Performance twin scroll mid mount turbo kit.

Official numbers,

521.99 whp
476.49 torque
11.54 lbs boost

I will post up the dyno graph once we get back to Canada.

Sasha, thanks for the great kit and the excellent customer service! Also thanks to the guys at R/T Tuning for the great tune and hospitality.
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Gooooooooooo. Did R/T feel comfortable with those torque and boost numbers on the stock block? Congrats dude!
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Yea I was gonna say that's alot of timing to make that trq..... Race fuel ?
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Numbers are redonk, grats man, looks like that housing paid dividends. This damned kit is getting better and better. Grats to Sasha as well!!
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I posted dyno numbers in my thread and later thought people would like to see them in this thread as well. Here are the official Dyno numbers from my car with the Boosted Performance twin scroll mid mount turbo kit.

Official numbers,

521.99 whp
476.49 torque
11.54 lbs boost

I will post up the dyno graph once we get back to Canada.

Sasha, thanks for the great kit and the excellent customer service! Also thanks to the guys at R/T Tuning for the great tune and hospitality.
Great results Jason and congrats again, now enjoy it...and you are welcome.





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Numbers are redonk, grats man, looks like that housing paid dividends. This damned kit is getting better and better. Grats to Sasha as well!!
Thanks.

On the numbers...as I have mentioned before, it is largely up to the tuner. They will go as far as they feel is safe. Each tuner will have a different personal opinion/idea on what a safe number is for each setup (some kits are more efficient than others). They will tune the car for optimal performance, keeping safety and longevity as top priority.

In the end, as long as it is a clean pull (no knock, and good a/f ratios) you should be good to go. The torque curve is also something to look at as some tuners will "ease" in to it and other will be more aggressive as boost comes up (torque shoots straight up).

These are small things, and this is why it is always best to look at the dyno sheets from a customer rather than from the shop that actually builds/sells the kit. I have seen shops post crazy numbers on one kit, and then customers go out and fall 25% short on what the manufacturer advertises. Not a good way to do business IMO.

But then again, to some the bottom line is the price so in the end you get what you pay for. It is easy for a manufacturer to make a product look better than it really is, but then you have to answer the “why can’t I duplicate these results” type questions. Thanks, but no thanks. I interact with all of my customers though PM’s an email about a lot of things, but would not want to be in the position where I have to answer that question.
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For the record 93 octane was used to achieve these numbers. I don't need to waste my time with race fuel when I'm not going to use it.

Before the tuning started Vince asked what I wanted as a result for the tuning. I said anything over 500hp would be good to me as long as if he thought it could be achieved safely.

I will post the dyno sheet next week.
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My dyno sheet. 93 octane.

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