So where's the update?

If this is the 'best kit on the market' why is it cheaper than all their other turbo kits? Are the more expensive ones sub-par and not worth buying?

I'll admit that there are a lot of positives to this kit and all things consider it could be the 'best option' for certain people but calling it the best kit is a bit of a stretch.

He's made some wild statements like that before and has never explained why he thinks so. I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to stay positive after such a long wait, even if you do come across as delusional in the process.

Gtm is better than greddy, stillen, hks, aam, bp. But i think its equal to fast intentions imo.

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Um one word... No.

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The best kit out there IMO is the FI kit. Best kit for the price is the BP kit. Both have great engineering behind them. But the BP kit will save you with total cost including install.


Trust me I know I've been on all the FI threads. Like a dog on bacon!

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It's not that hard to figure out...
Most affordable: GTM MHI (at group buy pricing of course)
Best bang for the buck: Boosted Performance
Money no object: Fast Intentions

Owning a true reliable racecar = priceless

MHI is NOT the most affordable. After getting an invoice the price is very similar to BP. MHI still needs oil coolers/colder spark plugs. The 3" downpipe alone was at least another 800 dollars and that is with the discount.

Once you factor in cost of install then MHI will cost more than the BP kit. Unless you do it yourself then the price is very close to being similar.

For what it's worth, I called Sam last weekend and he basically said what he said above, "the cast parts are coming in and pipes are being bent, we just have to wait for them all to come in". Then I asked for like an honest unofficial estimate on when it will ship and he said it would most likely be within 2 months. Obviously not a concrete date, but I figured it was worth mentioning.

Thats comming from a guy who bought all his crap from gtm, so effing say it GTM engineering is better.:confused:
http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...turn-fuel.html


U know wut i dont really care dont answer, maybe i got something wrong,

Just one example , find me a TT kit out there that does not require the removal of the front crash bar. Are there any ?

Now as far as reliability of the the components and performance of this upcoming kit, we'll have to wait and see once it has been installed, tuned and run on as many 370Z as possible. Keep our fingers crossed.

In the next few weeks we will have a more exact delivery date. It will be sometime within the next few months, definitely not 6 months. :)

When we say what we believe is going to be the best kit on the market, that is our opinion and we try to make our products the best out there, and will always continue to innovate and make new and better products - as we have for years.

There is a lot of different criteria for what would constitute the best kit, kit A might be the best for a certain person while kit B would be best suited for someone else.

The group buy pricing, and the retail pricing are 2 different things. Also when you manufacture products in higher quantities you are often able to be more competitive on pricing and pass your savings along to your customers.

Fast intentions looks like a great kit, I have not seen one in person but from what I have seen its looks great and they did and awesome job.

We are trying to bring products to the Nissan/Infiniti community at the same level as GReddy, HKS, Stillen, etc. but with a more affordable price point and better products. In my opinion our forced induction options are better than those competitors so I am glad you bring them up.

Any FI kit should run an oil cooler and colder plugs, unless you are running water injection you can skip the colder plugs but why would you for the cost?

As cylinder temperatures and pressures are much higher with any type of forced induction, including nitrous, it is recommend to run colder plugs in order to avoid hot spots and pre-detonation. Cheap insurance.

At GTM we strive to bring the Nissan/Infiniti community the best products we can, with in house R&D, manufacturing and installation. This gives a certain amount of experience in the VQ platform that is unrivaled in our industry. I don't know of anyone that has more hours tuning VQ's than Sam.

Although it may seem easy from an outside perspective there are many challenges faced when developing the amount of supercharger kits, turbo kits, and supporting modifications we offer. We are passionate about what we do and that is why we do it and will continue to do so.

Things are only going to be getter better and more efficient so that future products will roll out much smoother.

Trust me we want everyone waiting to already have our turbo kit - why wouldn't we? But if it takes longer than expected and our reputation has to suffer that is what has to happen so that our customers get the best quality products that GTM is known for.

Thank you.

-George

You need to strive for better customer service. That's the bottom line. If I could of waited for the kit I would of. But GTM's treatment of its customers doesn't stop at their wallets. You guys have affected people's contracts with sponsors, charities, shows, families even, and not including the money and time spent on prepping the car for the kit. This is where GTM needs to improve. You can polish a piece of coal all you want, but at the end of the day it's still a piece of coal. You have to put in work if you want a diamond.

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Hope you get your car back soon bud. You out of everyone will have the biggest smile on their face when you reap the benefits

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Well said.........

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Sounds as Sam felt your head full of crap like he did mine. Leading you on with how great he is and so on. While he sits back he can't even update his own thread. The fact that he's stealing other companies products and even there instructions says a lot that will never be undone. This guy told me so many lies then lead me on with even more lies to stall on the the previous ones. So many empty promises after I went to bat for him. Have fun with you guys cheap Chinese crap.

The above statement is 100% FACT. No two sides to it!!!!!!!!

looks like its even becoming difficult to get any information or status on a pain in full old school garret kit.................

Can you please elaborate. What components of this kit are chinese crap?

The M in MHI is for Mitsubishi...

Lol I know it's Japanese just thought it was funny

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I'd be interested in some elaboration on this one as well.

Keeping in mind that China produces both low quality and high quality products I'd like to know which parts are the crappy ones.

The intercooler cores are from China. And yes China produces parts at all ends of the quality spectrum. But 99% of the time, global companies that produce quality parts in China have strict QA programs and staff in China. GTM can't manage a single product offering in the United States, do you think they have quality control on the other side of the world?

Serious question... GTM has already offered up Garrett turbos for no cost. So if the quality is the same as the Garrett kit, where are they making up the price difference? (and don't tell me the million dollar pipe bender)

Name one intercooler that has failed by GTM. I'm pretty sure they used it in their 1000hp Z. It's really just petty. The only piece that's shown any issue was the old log manifolds. This whole made in China arguement is ********. Be happy with the kits you have, this thread is just throwing $hit back and forth. It's childish.

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I've asked you before, how many miles do these intercoolers have on them?

A good question

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I've already answered.

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Lol this just gets better and better. Sick with the flu? Man the f up. The flu?????? Orange juice and man the f up. Can't believe that had to be mentioned.

You're only as good as your word and he has lost a lot of it in this community. I hope this thread never magically disappears.

New products? He can't even finish this product! All the sudden his "vendors" are good and helped him finish other products.

Spohn, didn't I call it on the pm? Haha

Good luck to those still waiting. Boost is a blast. I hope the smiles erase the bad taste now and leaves it an afterthought.

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I am just in awe with the threads and responses to GTM's product (s) and customer service. I am going to leave it at this..........there is a reason why I don't have anything from them. Especially after being bashed for going with an "inferior" Greddy kit.

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You are concerned that an intercooler core is going to fail? I don't think I have ever seen an intercooler core fail on any forum that I have been on.

We use a local foundry for our castings and all the welds and fabrication are done in house. By the way you would be surprised were most of the parts on your car were made.

Regarding the turbos, we are not making that up anywhere. We are taking a loss and have upgraded the people on the group buy at no cost since they have had to wait for an extended amount of time.

-George

Benci,

I received your PM and will look into the order you placed through Z1 Motorsports for your turbo kit.

Thank you.

Your email is seeming to operate much more productivley than recent phone attempts . Thank you much sir look forward to hearing from you.

The intercooler core is just an example. I have seen countless heat exchanger failures in both R&D and field environments. Stress corrosion cracking, corrosion fatigue, de-lamination, etc...

Actually I wouldn't be surprised, I work for an automotive OEM. But as I said before, it depends on your QA/QC in the foreign production facilities. How is yours in China?

I understand you are losing on the price difference between the turbos and it cut in to your profit. I'm also not naive enough to think you are selling the kits at a loss now.

So if your using a local foundry and everything is done in house? What are you guys waiting on from your vendors again?

I may be wrong but last we heard your foundry was over seas hence why it was out of your hands to put psi on them to get the job finished???

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