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conmam 02-09-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2685074)
Can you please elaborate. What components of this kit are Chinese low quality products?

Guys, what is going on here with low quality Chinese product for this kit??? I heard intercooler and exhaust manifold failures so far. What else is there ?

Chuck33079 02-09-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 2685567)
Guys, what is going on here with low quality Chinese product for this kit??? I heard intercooler and exhaust manifold failures so far. What else is there ?


Where have you heard of actual failures? So far in this thread we've just got speculation about this kit.

DEpointfive0 02-09-2014 01:07 PM

Question... Sorry my head is killing me so maybe I missed it...
But is the hold up intercooler cores? Or the end pieces that are welded onto the cores?

If it is the cores, wasn't there a pic posted saying something like '100 cores ready for our TT kit'?
If not, carry on :tiphat:

SPOHN 02-09-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2685447)
So if your using a local foundry and everything is done in house? What are you guys waiting on from your vendors again?

I may be wrong but last we heard your foundry was over seas hence why it was out of your hands to put psi on them to get the job finished???

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This.
We've all seen the pics of the crates they came in from the oil pans. How else would this kit be done so cheap? If the foundry is local what's there name? Don't BS me I talked to Sam. And got lied to twice

conmam 02-09-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2685636)
Where have you heard of actual failures? So far in this thread we've just got speculation about this kit.

I have not heard any failure from anywhere besides this thread. I hope it's just speculation so far ??

Chuck33079 02-09-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 2685567)
Guys, what is going on here with low quality Chinese product for this kit??? I heard intercooler and exhaust manifold failures so far. What else is there ?

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 2685741)
I have not heard any failure from anywhere besides this thread. I hope it's just speculation so far ??

Which is it? You were the one claiming you heard of failures. Like the whole "they're dropping people off the list who haven't paid in full" bs YOU started earlier in the thread, maybe you should avoid speculation so others don't take what you say as anything resembling a fact.

conmam 02-09-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2685827)
Which is it? You were the one claiming you heard of failures. Like the whole "they're dropping people off the list who haven't paid in full" bs YOU started earlier in the thread, maybe you should avoid speculation so others don't take what you say as anything resembling a fact.

Let me be VERY clear. When I said " I heard intercooler and exhaust manifold failures so far" it was SOLELY from this thread. I have NOT heard about any failure anywhere else. Cut and dry !!!

Now, I did talked to GTM on the phone about 3 weeks ago personally and they did tell me that they would like to receive the payment for the kit in full as soon as possible because the later you pay, the higher chance that you might not be able to have the group buy price. That's the WHOLE truth, no speculation and NO BS at all. I am so confused about this whole nightmare.

George@GTM 02-09-2014 02:56 PM

Hopefully this will clear up some confusion...

The delays in manufacturing have been the turbo kit piping and the castings.

The piping delays have been resolved and the pipes are currently being manufactured in-house.

We are still waiting on the cast pieces, we have changed some things (will post details at a later date) for the new V3 kits and are using a local foundry for our casting pieces.

The intercooler cores are manufactured overseas and are high quality, our supplier makes these cores for a number of manufacturers over various platforms. Most of the forced inductions kits you see on the market for a number of vehicles are made overseas. Would you not buy an iPhone because it is manufactured overseas?

There have been ZERO intercooler failures in case anyone is confused, and I have never seen one on any platform in the last 10 years.

Out of the over 300 turbo kits we have manufactured over the last few years for the VQ community we have only heard of a few cracked turbo manifolds.

It is important for people to know that if your car is extremely low (like mine :)) and you are not careful and keep bottoming out your exhaust system it will fatigue the manifolds and they are more likely to eventually have stress cracks. I personally have 3" flex sections in my down pipes in the event I do bottom out for it to absorb some of the impact.

If you take a piece of hot cast iron and keep bagging it with over 3,000lbs what do you think would happen over time? Regardless of what turbo kits you have I would recommend adding a flex section pre-turbo on the exhaust or be very careful.

If it was a manufacturing defect there would be a lot more than handful of cracked manifolds out of the over 600 manifolds out there on the road.

We are striving to get everything on track and our #1 priority right now is to get everyone involved in our group buy their products. I have received some PM's regarding the Free Garrett turbo upgrade if the customer needed to do something on their part, the answer is no if you are part of the original group buy and did not back out you will be receiving a free Garret turbo upgrade at no cost automatically this is our way of apologizing for the unforeseen delays and trying to make things right.

No one will be getting the MHI turbos from the group buy.

I hope this helps and I encourage anyone to PM with any issues they have with their order, we are trying our best to do the right thing and take care of all our customers. I am confident once everyone that has waited patiently (which we greatly appreciate) receives their kit they will be extremely happy with the quality and value. It was a great deal before and even better now with Garret turbos :)

Thank you,

-George

cdoxp800 02-09-2014 03:12 PM

Wait.. George is Back at GTM?

Dzel 02-09-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 2685861)
Now, I did talked to GTM on the phone about 3 weeks ago personally and they did tell me that they would like to receive the payment for the kit in full as soon as possible because the later you pay, the higher chance that you might not be able to have the group buy price.

So now you have to pay in FULL to get the group buy price? Did I miss something? Or are you guys hurting for money?

I know for a fact that Mike stated you only have to pay half or some amount to lock in your group buy price.

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conmam 02-09-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2685902)
So now you have to pay in FULL to get the group buy price? Did I miss something? Or are you guys hurting for money?

I know for a fact that Mike stated you only have to pay half or some amount to lock in your group buy price.

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Yes . True. That's what I was told 3 weeks ago. Now, when I talked to them many many months ago ( maybe about 6 months ago at least ) GTM stated that they only needed about a 30% deposit to lock you in. The more you paid up front the higher priority that you would have when they start shipping out these kits. I don't feel like calling GTM again since we have a real sensitive situation here. We deserve a true and absolute answer so there will be no need to go back and forth again and again,

Alkatraz 02-09-2014 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by conmam (Post 2685908)
I don't feel like calling GTM again since we have a real sensitive situation here. We deserve a true and absolute answer so there will be no need to go back and forth again and again,

There has been plenty to lol at over the last week or so but this is probably the best!

CodeDrk 02-11-2014 03:59 AM

I been in and out of this thread for the last HOW EVER MANY MONTHS....

but have this been ever brought up? it seem like the MHI TT-KIT Project Car is still not finish, as its still being mock up and tested.

if this is true *IM JUST WONDERING NOT CAUSING PROBLEM*
how sure are you that this is not a ticking time bomb waiting to blow on the hundreds of customer that are awaiting for their kit including me?

and if this car is still being work on? how did you set up a Dyno test without successfully finishing the "Project Car it self"

And yet we still dont have a Realistic Time Date

I rather wait 1-2 year compare to have a ticking time bomb and yes i know its just piping and such... but that why Greddy and other Company TT-KIT cost alot due to TESTING and QUALITY and CONTROL PARTS.

and yes i do agree that most part is from china and yes there are HQ parts

sorry for going off topic but I just want 100% Tested product on and off track.

and please stop telling us that you guys are close u said that 6 + Month ago.

I dont mind waiting, i just want a legit time and date.

sorry! if i have cause any issue i just wanna know!

Footloose301 02-11-2014 05:14 AM

YAY! This thread is almost at it's ONE YEAR anniversary! :woot::vuvuzela2::vuvuzela::facepalm:

SPOHN 02-11-2014 05:47 AM

Lies

Alkatraz 02-11-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CodeDrk (Post 2687851)
I been in and out of this thread for the last HOW EVER MANY MONTHS....

but have this been ever brought up? it seem like the MHI TT-KIT Project Car is still not finish, as its still being mock up and tested.

if this is true *IM JUST WONDERING NOT CAUSING PROBLEM*
how sure are you that this is not a ticking time bomb waiting to blow on the hundreds of customer that are awaiting for their kit including me?

and if this car is still being work on? how did you set up a Dyno test without successfully finishing the "Project Car it self"

I'm pretty sure that the first MHI kit was installed on a G37. Wattles is his username over on myg37.com and as as far as I know its still going strong after 12+ months. From memory the only thing that he didnt have was the new manifolds. He was waiting on the new ones (probably still is) due to the old ones rubbing.

EDIT: I just checked and Wattles hasn't posted for quite a long time. He wasn't very active anyway but I am pretty sure that he would have let the community know if his kit had blown up (or the intercooler cores had failed.....lol).

Chuck33079 02-11-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkatraz (Post 2688333)
I'm pretty sure that the first MHI kit was installed on a G37. Wattles is his username over on myg37.com and as as far as I know its still going strong after 12+ months. From memory the only thing that he didnt have was the new manifolds. He was waiting on the new ones (probably still is) due to the old ones rubbing.

EDIT: I just checked and Wattles hasn't posted for quite a long time. He wasn't very active anyway but I am pretty sure that he would have let the community know if his kit had blown up (or the intercooler cores had failed.....lol).

Wattled ended up with a built motor.

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Originally Posted by Wattles (Post 2537919)
Add me to the list.

At 10k miles my motor went down with TT and oil cooler, dual intercooler setup. Boost was set to 10psi and WHP was just over 500.

My check engine light came on and the engine began to run very rough. I had it towed and the code the engine threw was a valve error.

Long story short, I now have a built engine after a long wait and Many dollars invested I hadn't planned on.

What can I say?
You play with fire, you can get burnt!


Alkatraz 02-11-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2688359)
Wattled ended up with a built motor.

There you go!

Chuck33079 02-11-2014 10:12 AM

I've not read anything that says anything improper happened or that any fingers were pointed. That's why it was a prototype. R&D can take a toll on a motor.

m3chhawk 02-11-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2688359)
Wattled ended up with a built motor.


teh lulz

Chuck33079 02-11-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk (Post 2688416)
teh lulz

As much as I can't describe any aspect of this group buy without using the word "cluster", I wouln't read anything into the fact Wattles had to rebuild a motor. R&D is hard on a vehicle. That's why you test it in house before you ship to the general public. I would think he had significant financial incentives to be the test mule.

Alstann 02-11-2014 12:58 PM

So...not to be a reverse devil's advocate...but we got a pretty good slew of updates, and we are still all yelling and hollering in a negative way?

:wtf2:

elperuano 02-11-2014 01:24 PM

Good slew of updates? What were the updates????

Chuck33079 02-11-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2688677)
Good slew of updates? What were the updates????

"Keep waiting". :rofl2:

Dzel 02-11-2014 01:33 PM

:eek::D:D:D

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conmam 02-11-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2688677)
Good slew of updates? What were the updates????

Still waiting .... PATIENTLY

SPOHN 02-11-2014 04:15 PM

Simple. In two weeks you will hear rough shipping dates which is months from then.

Same exact thing I heard four times. Course mine were post to be shipped out twice in less than two weeks. Then three times I heard in 48 hours. Nope, never happened. After he said I'll show you what I'm about. Lol. " I'm the man" " I'll blow your mind away with what I'm going to do" HA!

Dzel 02-11-2014 04:19 PM

Perfect definition of digging your own grave

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09nismo498 02-11-2014 07:33 PM

update on my situation, still no refund... still waiting, and not patient anymore...

Dzel 02-11-2014 07:57 PM

SMH have they contacted you in anyway?


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09nismo498 02-11-2014 08:05 PM

i have spoke with sam a few times, he just keeps saying he will look into it, and get it done as quickly as possible. all he has to do is send me a check for my refund, so i don't see what is taking so long. i guess i will just keep calling him.

scionide 02-12-2014 01:41 AM

I feel everyone's grief that's trying to get a refund..

GL, be persistent!

George@GTM 02-12-2014 02:45 AM

I understand that many of you have had a bad experience with inaccurate shipping times and I apologize for that but I cannot change the past.

All we can do now is correct things moving forward, learn from our mistakes, and make things better - we are still human as well :)

Many of you have said that customer service needs to improve, and we agree with you 100% which is why I am here. Right now our #1 priority is to get everyone their turbo kits ASAP.

Once we have a concrete shipping date I will post it, I am not going to post a shipping date that is going to come and go, I hope our customers can understand this.

We thank everyone for being patient and we are trying to make the best out of a bad situation and do the right thing for all our customers.

-George


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