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Alstann 07-07-2013 07:21 PM

True that! I'm ready to rock and roll on my install! We should at least be close to getting the first kits out, if anything.

NeverBoneStck 07-08-2013 03:39 AM

Have u guys received a eta yet after paying in full ??

COSMO 07-08-2013 04:28 AM

Been there done that.. ha! I've been waiting for a price from mike for a meth injection kit and no word for 3 weeks now along with an eta on their better priced 3' exhaust....



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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2394874)
Copy that the wife's starting to bitch about paying in full and not hearing any news for a little over a month now

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Sh0velMan 07-08-2013 07:15 AM

http://i.qkme.me/3v3rll.jpg


Kidding....mostly.

puckshaw 07-08-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 2395324)
Have u guys received a eta yet after paying in full ??

No. I was one of the first to pay.

Chuck33079 07-08-2013 09:12 AM

I doubt there's anything dishonest at play here, even though the pic was funny as hell. I think it's a case of a group buy turning out much, much bigger than originally anticipated. I'm sure there was a moment where the guys were thinking "Holy ****! This is awesome! Our new product is a huge success! Oh, wait. How the hell do we fill all of these orders in a reasonable time frame?"

Sh0velMan 07-08-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2395517)
I doubt there's anything dishonest at play here, even though the pic was funny as hell. I think it's a case of a group buy turning out much, much bigger than originally anticipated. I'm sure there was a moment where the guys were thinking "Holy ****! This is awesome! Our new product is a huge success! Oh, wait. How the hell do we fill all of these orders in a reasonable time frame?"

Yeah, I know, I just thought the meme was appropriate for a laugh.

(You know, since it's not my ~$6000 floating out there with no ETA for delivery. My wife would be on my *** every single day for a delivery date if it were.)

Chuck33079 07-08-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2395525)
Yeah, I know, I just thought the meme was appropriate for a laugh.

(You know, since it's not my ~$6000 floating out there with no ETA for delivery. My wife would be on my *** every single day for a delivery date if it were.)

I don't have a wife, but I'd be fairly annoying about following up if it was my cash. Still, the guys who bought in are getting what looks to be a great product at a screaming deal, but patience will be required. I'm not going to lie, when I saw the size of the list I thought to myself "There's no way anybody is getting a kit before Christmas." Just getting all of the parts from other manufacturers together will be a chore, not to mention the miles and miles of piping that needs to be taken care of. It's a massive undertaking. But patience will be rewarded with boost.

RICAN 07-08-2013 09:54 AM

Hey guys I was exchanging emails with mike and he told me that the group buy will close sometime between the middle of the month or end of month but if things go like they are Goin probably by the end of the month !!...so I wouldn't expect any kits to ship before

Alstann 07-08-2013 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RICAN (Post 2395583)
Hey guys I was exchanging emails with mike and he told me that the group buy will close sometime between the middle of the month or end of month but if things go like they are Goin probably by the end of the month !!...so I wouldn't expect any kits to ship before

When did you speak with him? Was this very recent?

And by the end of July isn't bad at all! I want to have this turbo project on my car, tuned, all bugs worked out before ZNationals. :driving:

SPOHN 07-08-2013 10:18 AM

As I said I'm interested in a exact week time frame now. But if you guys would read back some they already said middle/ end of July. Just being its getting closer and the Hoilday is over it would be nice to know a one or two week exact date.

At least I know GTM makes great products. Plus GTM still has to send out an email on the full details of each persons kit. Such as what BOV and waste gates we want. So right there takes time. But I'm not sure of exactly how many people have paid. I just know I'm in the top three if not the first.

Nixlimited 07-08-2013 11:14 AM

As my car is there waiting to get the finished kit installed, I expect that movement on it will be a good sign for everyone else's kit.

SS_Firehawk 07-08-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2395712)
As my car is there waiting to get the finished kit installed, I expect that movement on it will be a good sign for everyone else's kit.

:iagree: I haven't had an update on mine in a long time. Last time I got anything was when Sam was telling me how hard my wallet was going to get owned to replace the cooling mods that wouldn't fit. I could have bought one of these kits instead :owned: I've come to accept the fact that they are slow on updates and their timelines are 3x longer than the original. But like Spohn said, their work is The Sexy :yum:

GrooveStyle 07-08-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2395732)
:iagree: I haven't had an update on mine in a long time. Last time I got anything was when Sam was telling me how hard my wallet was going to get owned to replace the cooling mods that wouldn't fit. I could have bought one of these kits instead :owned: I've come to accept the fact that they are slow on updates and their timelines are 3x longer than the original. But like Spohn said, their work is The Sexy :yum:

That and I'd much rather have it released later and done right than just rushed out the door to meet a timeline! Until then, I will dream of boost and make cool noises with my mouth when I drive.

Dzel 07-08-2013 12:35 PM

I chose my parts when I ordered my kit! Just waiting on a shipment email.

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RICAN 07-08-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2395612)
When did you speak with him? Was this very recent?

And by the end of July isn't bad at all! I want to have this turbo project on my car, tuned, all bugs worked out before ZNationals. :driving:

Yea it was bout a week ago

ZtoG37 07-08-2013 03:52 PM

I got a email that said at the end of July

Mike@GTM 07-08-2013 05:44 PM

Hey guys, I think we were very clear from the beginning that we are shooting for June/July. Keep in mind that this is a goal and many things really have to come together in order to give an exact time frame and a lot of it is simply beyond our control. The only way to give an exact 100% definite time is once all the parts are on the shelf and all we have to do is package them and start shipping kits out. Unfortunately, since we don't have a foundry in house, it is impossible to do that. So basically, it is a waiting game. To give you an example of how things go, we were planning on releasing our high volume oil pan a couple weeks ago. The oil pan is completed and all we are waiting for is the baffling inside the pan. The manufacturer told us that their bending machine was out of commission and it took them 3 weeks longer than they initially told us to get us the first part. This is just one example of how things go. The good news is that all the design work and test fitting has been done. All we're waiting on is for the production parts to arrive. Personally, I think things are moving at a great speed considering the complexity and the quality of the parts that we are making.

On a brighter note, as you guys may recall that we only redesigned one manifold to avoid drilling the head. We are pleased to let you know that we have actually designed the left side manifold with a similar design to the one we showed here a couple weeks ago. Also, all our O2 sensor housings for the internal wastegate 2.5" outlet and the external wastegate 3" downpipes are being cast in stainless steel. These are some of the extra touches that we are doing to add a little extra icing on the cake. In addition, we designed our 3" downpipes to be modular so that you can switch from 3" test pipes to 3" high flow cats with ease.

Just as an aside, our GTR conversion manifold is going to be done around the same time as the turbo kits are ready to start shipping.

Overall, we are doing the best we can to get this new kit in your hands as quickly as possible.

MX52Z 07-08-2013 05:52 PM

I'm totally fine with you doing what you have to from engineering to suppliers to make me the best kit possible. I know some people are understandably eager to get their hands on it now but I don't mind being last on the list if that's what it takes to get all that for the price.

SPOHN 07-08-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2396234)
Also, all our O2 sensor housings for the internal wastegate 2.5" outlet and the external wastegate 3" downpipes are being cast in stainless steel.

:rock:

Dzel 07-08-2013 06:56 PM

This kit just keeps getting better and better!

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Hotrodz 07-08-2013 08:12 PM

Yep who likes cake without the icing and the best part is in the end we get to have our cake and eat it too!!! Let the good times roll....

COSMO 07-08-2013 08:13 PM

Since I cant seem to get anything from gtm does anyone know anything about where to tap the plenum for a meth injection? I remember reading it somewhere online but cant seem to find it now. Since my TT is installes and bugs finally worked out Iam looking to safe guard the motor but read somewhere that instead of tapping both intakes for jets that only one could be used in the plenum.. Mike did you forget about working me up a price for my meth kit??? Sometimes I feel gtm may be getting too big for their own good but Iam guessing time will tell when these 100+ people have to call for help and get blown off....

Baer383 07-08-2013 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2396415)
Since I cant seem to get anything from gtm does anyone know anything about where to tap the plenum for a meth injection? I remember reading it somewhere online but cant seem to find it now. Since my TT is installes and bugs finally worked out Iam looking to safe guard the motor but read somewhere that instead of tapping both intakes for jets that only one could be used in the plenum.. Mike did you forget about working me up a price for my meth kit??? Sometimes I feel gtm may be getting too big for their own good but Iam guessing time will tell when these 100+ people have to call for help and get blown off....

I installed mine in the intake pipe behind the MAF but before the throttle bodies.

COSMO 07-08-2013 09:04 PM

Baer383 what kit did you go with and what size jets? Iam sorry people I know it sounds bad of me taking about gtm but in fact I am one of their biggest fans. I only wish they had more time and people to help others who have vested in their company to be able to help and follow up when needed... :tup:


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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2396433)
I installed mine in the intake pipe behind the MAF but before the throttle bodies.


Dzel 07-08-2013 09:55 PM

It would be awesome if Sam started a Q&A thread for installation questions and other stuff that might come up.

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COSMO 07-08-2013 10:15 PM

Now there's an idea and to think how much time it would save them if they had more issues already covered in a Q&A.. I wanted to support gtm in my future wants and needs for my build but when they cant even get back with me on items Iam needing it tells me they are getting too big for their own good. Understanding they have their hands full working on alot of new and upcoming things customer service and return business should always remain at the top of the list... Knowing mike will get on here tomorrow and see this only to make excuses for why gtm cant keep up with their own products I conclude my rant is over...:tiphat:


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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2396544)
It would be awesome if Sam started a Q&A thread for installation questions and other stuff that might come up.

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elperuano 07-08-2013 10:52 PM

Research research research. Nothing new going on.

Baer383 07-09-2013 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2396509)
Baer383 what kit did you go with and what size jets? Iam sorry people I know it sounds bad of me taking about gtm but in fact I am one of their biggest fans. I only wish they had more time and people to help others who have vested in their company to be able to help and follow up when needed... :tup:


ba

I used a Snow Performance kit the jet size ,I don't remember b/c that was last year I don't use it anymore but it did yield about 30 rwhp.

Dzel 07-09-2013 06:42 AM

Would you get a better delivery if you drilled into the plenum for the meth?

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COSMO 07-09-2013 09:22 AM

From what I understand you would only have to use 1 jet instead of tapping 2 of the intake pipes. Don't quote me on that though.. I have a friend in texas with a aps single turbo kit on his 2003 350z with almost 200k and he uses the aem meth injection kit. Seeing that and after riding in his car has made me a believer in going with the meth kit.:tup::tup:



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Would you get a better delivery if you drilled into the plenum for the meth?

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SPOHN 07-09-2013 10:01 AM

Meth kits can use 1-6 ports depending what type of system you want to run. Look on GTM's website or google search some of there setups. They have a lot of different ways to set up meth kits. Some are pretty amazing but not for me.

Dzel 07-09-2013 10:27 AM

Here's a dumb question do you need to tune the cat with the meth injection or can you add it on after with no need to tune

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Dzel 07-09-2013 10:27 AM

Car'

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Chuck33079 07-09-2013 10:30 AM

I'd always recommend a retune after adding meth, but it really depends on what you want from it. You'd need a retune to add the additional power it would allow you. You might be able to get away with not retuning it if you're just using it to increase octane for safety, and not adding any more timing. That being said, I'd always retune after adding something like meth on a FI car.

Dzel 07-09-2013 11:26 AM

Copy that! I would like to be able to get the hp numbers I want and at the same time be able to run less boost

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Alstann 07-09-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2397110)
Copy that! I would like to be able to get the hp numbers I want and at the same time be able to run less boost

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This exactly. Right here is why I want to go meth - just to keep the motor running stronger and under less pressure. Long term baby. :happydance:

Dzel 07-09-2013 11:56 AM

I'm at lunch note but after I'll look into the AEM meth kit and do a little research

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Nixlimited 07-09-2013 12:25 PM

I would be careful putting too much faith in meth being a reliable safety blanket for a stock engine. Certainly meth injection will decrease the likelihood of detonation, which is one major source of engine failure. However, even if you do not have any detonation, increasing the power level of a stock block with meth will still start to push you up against the limits of the stock parts. Too much power is too much power quite independently of detonation. I'm not suggesting that meth isn't a good idea, only that meth is no substitute for a built engine if you want to go for big numbers.

SS_Firehawk 07-09-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2397211)
I would be careful putting too much faith in meth being a reliable safety blanket for a stock engine. Certainly meth injection will decrease the likelihood of detonation, which is one major source of engine failure. However, even if you do not have any detonation, increasing the power level of a stock block with meth will still start to push you up against the limits of the stock parts. Too much power is too much power quite independently of detonation. I'm not suggesting that meth isn't a good idea, only that meth is no substitute for a built engine if you want to go for big numbers.

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