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indyn 05-02-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2296786)
i'd rather them get the kits out a little later but have the them 100% spot on, over rushing them out with a bug or 2. I'm about as ready as u can get for this release, but i want them to get the r&d completed before shipping any out

i thought the R&D was done!!

theDreamer 05-02-2013 10:04 AM

I believe they have said it is done, but there are other things they must line up.
Remember they want this to be an off the shelf kit, which means keeping plenty of stock for next day shipping. If they don't have the manufacturer ready to handle the load or volume it will fail.

SPOHN 05-02-2013 11:20 AM

Ok people...... chill! GTM has some things to get lined up. There good to go but takes time to get all parts stocked. There probably making enough for 100 kits. One thing about GTM is its going to be right and its going to be the best! Period. Sam makes sure of it!

I wish I already had it in my hands. I'm impatient as it comes. But greatness will prevail. With that said, hurry up GTM.:bowrofl:

Baer383 05-02-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2296983)
Ok people...... chill! GTM has some things to get lined up. There good to go but takes time to get all parts stocked. There probably making enough for 100 kits. One thing about GTM is its going to be right and its going to be the best! Period. Sam makes sure of it!

I wish I already had it in my hands. I'm impatient as it comes. But greatness will prevail. With that said, hurry up GTM.:bowrofl:

:icon23:

SPOHN 05-02-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2297050)
:icon23:

Don't be mad about your pulley you can't get. HA!

Dzel 05-02-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2297069)
Don't be mad about your pulley you can't get. HA!

:icon23:

:bowrofl:

de_dust 05-03-2013 12:18 PM

sam/mike,

a lot of quite interesting functionality are being discussed in regards to EcuTek on another thread, I was wondering if you can opine, confirm, or give more details on EcuTek's capabilities. simply, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using EcuTek instead of UpRev to tune this kit? thanks..

SS_Firehawk 05-03-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 2298939)
sam/mike,

a lot of quite interesting functionality are being discussed in regards to EcuTek on another thread, I was wondering if you can opine, confirm, or give more details on EcuTek's capabilities. simply, what are the advantages/disadvantages of using EcuTek instead of UpRev to tune this kit? thanks..

Totally wrong thread man, I would just make a new thread and PM them to reply to your inquiry.

Edit: Some how recommending this turns me into the @sshole.

BlkNismo 05-03-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2293000)
GTM,

Whats the cost difference to have HKS SSQV Bov's?

Will your 3" downpipes on your site (designed for garret kit) work with this MHI Kit?

Also will these downpipes mate to oem nismo mid pipe or will a reducer be required for the flanges to match?

Post may have been overlooked with all the gauge pictures previously.

de_dust 05-03-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2298956)
Totally wrong thread man, I would just make a new thread and PM them to reply to your inquiry.

why wrong thread? if you are deciding between tuner or turn key kit for this car, wouldn't you want to understand GTM's opinion on options with tuning? for that matter, wouldn't they be able to state limitation with EcuTek in reference to their kit. their turn key kit is tuned with uprev. is there any point they would establish a turn key kit but with EcuTek instead? since they are considered to be master tuners for ecutek and have dabbled with it for their Juke R&D, am curious if they can give us more information on Ecutek?

it's like asking what the diff between MHI turbos from the Garrett turbos? :tup:

puckshaw 05-03-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 2299101)
why wrong thread? if you are deciding between tuner or turn key kit for this car, wouldn't you want to understand GTM's opinion on options with tuning? for that matter, wouldn't they be able to state limitation with EcuTek in reference to their kit. their turn key kit is tuned with uprev. is there any point they would establish a turn key kit but with EcuTek instead? since they are considered to be master tuners for ecutek and have dabbled with it for their Juke R&D, am curious if they can give us more information on Ecutek?

it's like asking what the diff between MHI turbos from the Garrett turbos? :tup:

Perfectly valid question in my opinion. I've been curious about this as well but don't know of an ecutek tuner in my area.

SS_Firehawk 05-03-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by de_dust (Post 2299101)
why wrong thread? if you are deciding between tuner or turn key kit for this car, wouldn't you want to understand GTM's opinion on options with tuning? for that matter, wouldn't they be able to state limitation with EcuTek in reference to their kit. their turn key kit is tuned with uprev. is there any point they would establish a turn key kit but with EcuTek instead? since they are considered to be master tuners for ecutek and have dabbled with it for their Juke R&D, am curious if they can give us more information on Ecutek?

it's like asking what the diff between MHI turbos from the Garrett turbos? :tup:


This is about the MHI TT kit. It can be purchased with and without a tune. The tune was already mentioned as an Uprev tune. Tuning is wholly a different topic and can consume and derail a thread. I don't know if GTM does Ecutek tuning for the Z (I saw a thread saying they did [not by GTM]), but if they offered Ecutek tuning services for the Z already, I am 99.999% sure they would make a thread about it. Tuning does have a separate forum section where this could be addressed.

"what are the advantages/disadvantages of using EcuTek instead of UpRev to tune this kit? thanks.. " This makes an assumption that you know they have used Ecutek to tune this kit when all we've seen is Uprev based tuning.

Edit: I know there was a $hit ton of info on some of the capabilities of Ecutek over Uprev in the other thread, and was mentioned to ask Sam or Mike to chime in on the topic. So in essence, you've really just kinda opened a floodgate into this thread. I don't see why this should be targeted only towards this kit when the question really is about supercharger tuning, turbo tuning, NA tuning, it just seemed like a convenient way to try and shoehorn it in an active thread


Edit 2: Straight from GTM's page; All our turbo kits are available in Two forms, A tuner kit form so the professional and the end user have the flexibility of choosing what ever fuel, engine management they may desire and feel comfortable using. And a complete kit form with fuel and engine management solution leaving a alot of room for future growth. With that being said, GTM will also offer an extensive range of fuel system and engine management modules to go with our turbo kits.

de_dust 05-03-2013 02:51 PM

i dont understand what you are trying to do but agree that we disagree on the topicality of my question... if GTM is not tuning this kit with EcuTek or it wouldnt work or simply they dont use EcuTek, then they can say something about it. unless they directly told u something about tuning on ur twin supercharged kit to confirm what you are inferring as 99.9999%, then frankly you are just cluttering the thread and more off topic than my question.. simply going to EcuTek's website and looking for certified tuners states that GTM is a master tuner for 370z... please pm me if u want to discuss further

SPOHN 05-03-2013 03:07 PM

Most all tuners use Uprev now for our cars since it's so friendly (not saying the others are not). I'm sure Sam has a lot of licenses already bought from Uprev and also being he's already done a lot of tuning via uprev he must also have a lot of maps ready to be released with the turn key kits or even the tuner kits if need be.

SPOHN 05-05-2013 09:18 PM

GTM, any pics from underneath of the open dumps and downpipes?

lww 05-06-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by indyn (Post 2296773)
Mike, can't the kits be shipped earlier than June/July; given the number of ppl signing up and by the time one gets it installed half the summer will be done. Won't give us too much time to enjoy this kit.

I'd much rather run this kit on a nice cool October Saturday afternoon than a scalding hot day in July! :icon14: Fall weather makes turbos more fun! :happydance:

SPOHN 05-06-2013 05:55 AM

You guys and if when can get it sooner/ later. You cant get it sooner cause there not ready. And if you want to wait later. Well, wait later. You can't rush production. It is what it is. I'm sure GTM is doing something everyday towards getting these kits out. As much as GTM wants to release this for there selves and us he has to make business work smoothly or else you'd be complaining about that.

COSMO 05-06-2013 06:44 AM

Spohn your starting to sound like the new gtm sales rep...;) I also had to wait well past my deadline for my tt kit but it was WELL worth it!!!! Their 3' exhaust is next on my wish list.......

roplusbee 05-06-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lww (Post 2302201)
I'd much rather run this kit on a nice cool October Saturday afternoon than a scalding hot day in July! :icon14: Fall weather makes turbos more fun! :happydance:

:tup:

indyn 05-06-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lww (Post 2302201)
I'd much rather run this kit on a nice cool October Saturday afternoon than a scalding hot day in July! :icon14: Fall weather makes turbos more fun! :happydance:

anything past June/July would be pushing it. Hopefully they'll be shipped at that time.

rhd 05-06-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lww (Post 2302201)
I'd much rather run this kit on a nice cool October Saturday afternoon than a scalding hot day in July! :icon14: Fall weather makes turbos more fun! :happydance:

There not running too damn bad in MAY... :driving:

Chuck33079 05-07-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rhd (Post 2303699)
There not running too damn bad in MAY... :driving:

Dude, you're in Montana. It's always turbo weather when you're that far north.

COSMO 05-08-2013 09:30 AM

Just a friendly reminder, Be Sure to Make Check Both Turbo's to make sure they are CLOCKED correctly or you will have fitment issues down the road on the things.. Even if one of yours is supposed to be already clocked...... Trust me it will save you a lot of time later...

SPOHN 05-08-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2305968)
Just a friendly reminder, Be Sure to Make Check Both Turbo's to make sure they are CLOCKED correctly or you will have fitment issues down the road on the things.. Even if one of yours is supposed to be already clocked...... Trust me it will save you a lot of time later...

Not ThAts it's hard. But I wish it was done already.

KaienZ34 05-08-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmogirl (Post 2305968)
Just a friendly reminder, Be Sure to Make Check Both Turbo's to make sure they are CLOCKED correctly or you will have fitment issues down the road on the things.. Even if one of yours is supposed to be already clocked...... Trust me it will save you a lot of time later...

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2306040)
Not ThAts it's hard. But I wish it was done already.


That's just when you make sure the return oil line for the turbo is facing down right?

SPOHN 05-08-2013 11:25 AM

Clocking a turbo means rotating the compressor and exhaust housings in relation to the manifold. There's other reason but this is the main reason.

Dzel 05-08-2013 06:11 PM

Any new updates?

From my TapAhoe

SPOHN 05-08-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2306886)
Any new updates?

From my TapAhoe

Yes. There are none. :bowrofl:

Dzel 05-08-2013 06:46 PM

:sly: man the Z is just parked in my garage. Waiting patiently....

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Alstann 05-10-2013 11:56 PM

By the way, for all the people who are pre-ordering the kit, lets discuss something:

How much power do you fellas think you want to be putting down? I personally want to run around 500-540whp all day, but I know some will run less, and some will run more (550-600whp). What do you think will be the sweet spot?

I honestly haven't found a ton of information regarding engines blowing up at 550+ whp, only a few cases. I'd wager there are many kits (GTM or otherwise) running at that, or slightly below that have been fine for a while now. That being said, I would be weary of 600whp.

BlkNismo 05-11-2013 04:59 AM

Aiming for 425whp 375tq daily

MavRick 05-11-2013 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alstann (Post 2310917)
By the way, for all the people who are pre-ordering the kit, lets discuss something:

How much power do you fellas think you want to be putting down?
I personally want to run around 500-540whp all day, but I know some will run less, and some will run more (550-600whp). What do you think will be the sweet spot?

I honestly haven't found a ton of information regarding engines blowing up at 550+ whp, only a few cases. I'd wager there are many kits (GTM or otherwise) running at that, or slightly below that have been fine for a while now. That being said, I would be weary of 600whp.

Enough to beat this down the airstrip at Heaven's Landing in September...

http://oi44.tinypic.com/fx9jr7.jpg

Lingenfelter pulley, CAI, 550+ at the wheels. i just CANT let my big brother have a faster car...

khanhvu411 05-11-2013 08:03 AM

I am just going to stay with 18g and turnkey tune for now (hopefully it will be somewhere around 400whp) until i can get my engine rebuild.

Footloose301 05-11-2013 08:17 AM

Shooting for 475-525whp

Dzel 05-11-2013 08:18 AM

I'm not using my car as a daily. I'll be running it with no muffler at the strip. This is what I'll set the tune up along with racing fuel I should be at 525 hp or around there. I can only run it like that until the stock clutch gives then I'll do the tranny and LSD. My goal is less boost but achieving my hp goal at the same time. I'm also running 2.75" exhaust instead of your traditional 2.50"

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Footloose301 05-11-2013 08:31 AM

Mine is just a weekend car. I have a crew cab Titan for my daily :tup:

SPOHN 05-11-2013 08:41 AM

Ill have low boost and high boost setting tuned with the HKS EVC. Going for highest HP on a 18G. Maybe meth.

Baer383 05-11-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2311136)
Ill be on meth.

Man back away from the Meth!!!!:hello::icon17:

Dzel 05-11-2013 09:15 AM

How much hp do you gain with meth? And what setting?

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KaienZ34 05-11-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2311144)
Man back away from the Meth!!!!:hello::icon17:


It has the word BJ in the pic.
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